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I don't see how chaos leading to bail being revoked is an awesome strategy. Where exactly is the win?

by smsm42 3y ago

harry8 3y ago
May not be a win, I sure hope there isn't one. There should not be one. I just don't see him as meaningfully worse off. The muddier, smokier, more controversial and strange make it at least /possible/ there can be some lawyers "Aktuhally..." and he comes out somehow ahead. If not, nothing lost, he's unlikely to go to jail for longer or a worse one. It's a hail mary to be sure but it's a free throw of the dice. Do you think this list of, um, "politicians" wants to give all the stolen money back that he donated? They sure have an interest in how this plays out, huh? https://unusualwhales.com/politics/article/senate_ftx https://unusualwhales.com/politics/article/senate_ftx Just because someone act like a total idiot doesn't mean that they aren't.
- smsm42 3y ago
  Nobody is giving back anything of course, but that's all in the past - that money is gone and no more us coming, so nobody is going to stick with him for that. His parents and their friends - maybe.
nostrademons 3y ago
He's going to jail for witness tampering. If he successfully tampers with the witness, enough to sow reasonable doubt and lead to his acquittal at trial, then it's worth it. That's why it's a crime - because there is a potential payoff to it. If actually tampering with the witness never worked, there would be no need to criminalize it.
- smsm42 3y ago
  Getting charged with tampering is much, much easier than successfully tamper. If he wanted to scare Elison publishing some dirt or sending texts is not going to do it - feds have much better ways to scare people into cooperation. And his very expensive lawyers told him as much, I am sure, because every lawyer would. But he probably decided he knows better.
  - nostrademons 3y ago
    But the payoffs are very much asymmetric. Getting convicted of tampering adds a few extra years to his sentence which will probably be more than his life anyway. Successfully tampering with the witness may avoid the conviction in the first place.
    - smsm42 3y ago
      Except there's no chance of successful tampering the way he did it. Never was. Publishing dirt on one of his co-conspirators is not going yo negate his conviction.

I don't see how chaos leading to bail being revoked is an awesome strategy. Where exactly is the win?

by smsm42 3y ago

I don't see how chaos leading to bail being revoked is an awesome strategy. Where exactly is the win?

May not be a win, I sure hope there isn't one. There should not be one. I just don't see him as meaningfully worse off. The muddier, smokier, more controversial and strange make it at least /possible/ there can be some lawyers "Aktuhally..." and he comes out somehow ahead. If not, nothing lost, he's unlikely to go to jail for longer or a worse one. It's a hail mary to be sure but it's a free throw of the dice. Do you think this list of, um, "politicians" wants to give all the stolen money back that he donated? They sure have an interest in how this plays out, huh? https://unusualwhales.com/politics/article/senate_ftx https://unusualwhales.com/politics/article/senate_ftx Just because someone act like a total idiot doesn't mean that they aren't.

smsm42 3y ago
Nobody is giving back anything of course, but that's all in the past - that money is gone and no more us coming, so nobody is going to stick with him for that. His parents and their friends - maybe.

nostrademons 3y ago

He's going to jail for witness tampering. If he successfully tampers with the witness, enough to sow reasonable doubt and lead to his acquittal at trial, then it's worth it. That's why it's a crime - because there is a potential payoff to it. If actually tampering with the witness never worked, there would be no need to criminalize it.

smsm42 3y ago
Getting charged with tampering is much, much easier than successfully tamper. If he wanted to scare Elison publishing some dirt or sending texts is not going to do it - feds have much better ways to scare people into cooperation. And his very expensive lawyers told him as much, I am sure, because every lawyer would. But he probably decided he knows better.
- nostrademons 3y ago
  But the payoffs are very much asymmetric. Getting convicted of tampering adds a few extra years to his sentence which will probably be more than his life anyway. Successfully tampering with the witness may avoid the conviction in the first place.
  - smsm42 3y ago
    Except there's no chance of successful tampering the way he did it. Never was. Publishing dirt on one of his co-conspirators is not going yo negate his conviction.