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I haven’t seen ads on mobile Safari for as long as I can remember. Whether you choose to believe that is up to you. Can you point to an example where an extensi

I haven’t seen ads on mobile Safari for as long as I can remember. Whether you choose to believe that is up to you. Can you point to an example where an extension like AdGuard would let an ad slip through? Precompiled declarative blocking is more performant and power efficient than running a content script in a JS VM at page load, which matters on a CPU and battery constrained device. I was responding to a comment claiming that mobile Safari doesn’t support add-ons. Which is simply not true!

_thisdot 3y ago
If anything, my problem is sometimes it’s too strong. Searching for a product on Google and clicking the Amazon links don’t work
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eipi10_hn 3y ago
It's not only the ads slipping through. Safari is so lacking in terms of API that for many sites with anti-adblock, the only way to bypass those are allowing tracking / ads connections. Check the `@@` filters for `ios` here: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/AdguardTeam/AdguardFilters/master/BaseFilter/sections/antiadblock.txt https://raw.githubusercontent.com/AdguardTeam/AdguardFilters... Adguard's default settings already do not include many tracking connections blocking filters, due to the lack of Safari's API for redirecting to neutered sources which could easily lead to breakages / anti-adblock. In terms of privacy-protection, Safari is one of the worst.
the_gipsy 3y ago
> Can you point to an example where an extension like AdGuard would let an ad slip through? Yes, see Twitter. I have AdGuard installed on iOS and I do see ads. I do not see them when opening on Firefox desktop with uBlock Origin. If I disable uBlock then I do see them like on Safari. As I said, precompiled declarative blocking only works for the weakest of blatant ads. Of course it's "more performant and power efficient" because it only runs on the bare HTTP requests. That's not what I want. > I was responding to a comment claiming that mobile Safari doesn’t support add-ons. Which is simply not true! Fair enough. But personally I don't count Safari's extensions as real extension, just like I don't count Firefox' previous approach of a handful of "blessed" extensions for Android as real extensions.
- lapcat 3y ago
  > Yes, see Twitter. Safari content blockers aside, Safari web extensions are capable of blocking Twitter ads.
  - the_gipsy 3y ago
    AdBlock does not, so which one does?
    - lapcat 3y ago
      Well... my own Safari extension Tweaks for Twitter does, but I recently discontinued it because I got sick of Twitter's shenanigans such as the strict usage limits, and I have no interest in supporting X, the so-called "everything app". There may be other extensions, I don't know. In any case, the technical capability of the API is there.
      - wildrhythms 3y ago
        [flagged]
        lapcat 3y ago
        This is an unduly harsh reply. Please refrain from emotional outbursts against other HN commenters.
- mst 3y ago
  Note that you've been able to use custom collections to get extra extensions on FF-for-Android for a while provided you put the browser into developer mode first. It's a pain in the arse and certainly doesn't count as 'released' by any means but it's been at least just about possible for a while.
eptcyka 3y ago
I see ads on Safari on my iOS device all the time, whether you choose to believe that is up to you.

_thisdot 3y ago

If anything, my problem is sometimes it’s too strong. Searching for a product on Google and clicking the Amazon links don’t work

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eipi10_hn 3y ago

It's not only the ads slipping through. Safari is so lacking in terms of API that for many sites with anti-adblock, the only way to bypass those are allowing tracking / ads connections. Check the `@@` filters for `ios` here: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/AdguardTeam/AdguardFilters/master/BaseFilter/sections/antiadblock.txt https://raw.githubusercontent.com/AdguardTeam/AdguardFilters... Adguard's default settings already do not include many tracking connections blocking filters, due to the lack of Safari's API for redirecting to neutered sources which could easily lead to breakages / anti-adblock. In terms of privacy-protection, Safari is one of the worst.

the_gipsy 3y ago

> Can you point to an example where an extension like AdGuard would let an ad slip through? Yes, see Twitter. I have AdGuard installed on iOS and I do see ads. I do not see them when opening on Firefox desktop with uBlock Origin. If I disable uBlock then I do see them like on Safari. As I said, precompiled declarative blocking only works for the weakest of blatant ads. Of course it's "more performant and power efficient" because it only runs on the bare HTTP requests. That's not what I want. > I was responding to a comment claiming that mobile Safari doesn’t support add-ons. Which is simply not true! Fair enough. But personally I don't count Safari's extensions as real extension, just like I don't count Firefox' previous approach of a handful of "blessed" extensions for Android as real extensions.

lapcat 3y ago
> Yes, see Twitter. Safari content blockers aside, Safari web extensions are capable of blocking Twitter ads.
- the_gipsy 3y ago
  AdBlock does not, so which one does?
  - lapcat 3y ago
    Well... my own Safari extension Tweaks for Twitter does, but I recently discontinued it because I got sick of Twitter's shenanigans such as the strict usage limits, and I have no interest in supporting X, the so-called "everything app". There may be other extensions, I don't know. In any case, the technical capability of the API is there.
    - wildrhythms 3y ago
      [flagged]
      - lapcat 3y ago
        This is an unduly harsh reply. Please refrain from emotional outbursts against other HN commenters.
mst 3y ago
Note that you've been able to use custom collections to get extra extensions on FF-for-Android for a while provided you put the browser into developer mode first. It's a pain in the arse and certainly doesn't count as 'released' by any means but it's been at least just about possible for a while.

eptcyka 3y ago

I see ads on Safari on my iOS device all the time, whether you choose to believe that is up to you.