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It doesn't take that much alcohol to get a 13 year old drunk. And they likely took it from their parents, have older siblings/cousins/etc. or robbed a store. "W

It doesn't take that much alcohol to get a 13 year old drunk. And they likely took it from their parents, have older siblings/cousins/etc. or robbed a store. "Where are their parents?!" - not every child has great parents. Besides there are numerous ways imaginable for a teen to conceal that behavior.

snvzz 3y ago
If I was unclear, this is culture shock to me (grew up in EU). The age at which my school peers were introduced to alcohol was in high school, 16-18 range, when everybody started going out at night. I do not remember anybody even joking about drinking alcohol before then.
- Swizec 3y ago
  Grew up in EU. We thought it was edgy and cool to drink alcohol around 13/14. We couldn’t acquire serious quantities so not much drunkenness happened. We’d like share a beer between 10 people and think we’re soooo drunk
- ginko 3y ago
  Grew up in EU as well(Austria). When around 13 we’d buy alcohol with the old “I’m getting it for my dad” excuse. (Obviously my dad needed some 4% alcoholic lemonade in the early afternoon) Cashiers didn’t really care. At least back in the 90s. Starting high school (~age 15, legal drinking age is 16) we’d go to bars to have a beer.
  - rcbdev 3y ago
    Growing up in Vienna (Austria) I can confirm that many bars existed to cater to middle schoolers and it was very easy buying alcohol (Whiskey, Beer etc.) at 13/14. Getting in with siblings' student IDs is still common as far as I can tell.
    - wink 3y ago
      German here who was 13 in the 90s - while I'd heard of several people (and friends of mine) who drank alcohol at 13, it was a lot more common at 15 (but mind you, we're allowed to legally drink beer with 16, so I don't consider drinking beer at 15 a big deal). All mostly middle class children who went on to go to uni, maybe the occasional outlier with a less than normal home situation. They did want to see government IDs in shops, but I guess that highly depends on the shop or your exact location.
    - snvzz 3y ago
      >many bars existed to cater to middle schoolers and it was very easy buying alcohol (Whiskey, Beer etc.) at 13/14. Definitely not legal. How come the owners aren't in jail? This is no joke, we are talking about children. Seems like serious levels of corruption.
      - mpol 3y ago
        The shops don't advertise that of course, so with what claim would you nail them? Here in the Netherlands, about 10 years ago, there was a new law that coffeeshops selling marihuana are not allowed within 250 meter from schools. That is a rule working the other way around.
      - rcbdev 3y ago
        Funnily enough, the notorious night club I was thinking of from my youth actually is closed now.
- blovescoffee 3y ago
  Fair! That's "healthier."
  - snvzz 3y ago
    It would be best to not drink at all. But the older people start, the better. Ideally, as an adult, as kids are not responsible for themselves.
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snvzz 3y ago

If I was unclear, this is culture shock to me (grew up in EU). The age at which my school peers were introduced to alcohol was in high school, 16-18 range, when everybody started going out at night. I do not remember anybody even joking about drinking alcohol before then.

Swizec 3y ago
Grew up in EU. We thought it was edgy and cool to drink alcohol around 13/14. We couldn’t acquire serious quantities so not much drunkenness happened. We’d like share a beer between 10 people and think we’re soooo drunk
ginko 3y ago
Grew up in EU as well(Austria). When around 13 we’d buy alcohol with the old “I’m getting it for my dad” excuse. (Obviously my dad needed some 4% alcoholic lemonade in the early afternoon) Cashiers didn’t really care. At least back in the 90s. Starting high school (~age 15, legal drinking age is 16) we’d go to bars to have a beer.
- rcbdev 3y ago
  Growing up in Vienna (Austria) I can confirm that many bars existed to cater to middle schoolers and it was very easy buying alcohol (Whiskey, Beer etc.) at 13/14. Getting in with siblings' student IDs is still common as far as I can tell.
  - wink 3y ago
    German here who was 13 in the 90s - while I'd heard of several people (and friends of mine) who drank alcohol at 13, it was a lot more common at 15 (but mind you, we're allowed to legally drink beer with 16, so I don't consider drinking beer at 15 a big deal). All mostly middle class children who went on to go to uni, maybe the occasional outlier with a less than normal home situation. They did want to see government IDs in shops, but I guess that highly depends on the shop or your exact location.
  - snvzz 3y ago
    >many bars existed to cater to middle schoolers and it was very easy buying alcohol (Whiskey, Beer etc.) at 13/14. Definitely not legal. How come the owners aren't in jail? This is no joke, we are talking about children. Seems like serious levels of corruption.
    - mpol 3y ago
      The shops don't advertise that of course, so with what claim would you nail them? Here in the Netherlands, about 10 years ago, there was a new law that coffeeshops selling marihuana are not allowed within 250 meter from schools. That is a rule working the other way around.
    - rcbdev 3y ago
      Funnily enough, the notorious night club I was thinking of from my youth actually is closed now.
blovescoffee 3y ago
Fair! That's "healthier."
- snvzz 3y ago
  It would be best to not drink at all. But the older people start, the better. Ideally, as an adult, as kids are not responsible for themselves.
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