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> If you don't, you will probably have twitter brigades trying to smear your name. Do Twitter crowds actually do that? Do they keep track of anyone more or les

> If you don't, you will probably have twitter brigades trying to smear your name. Do Twitter crowds actually do that? Do they keep track of anyone more or less prominent, and write in their comments "Have you spoken out against the war yet?" "I haven't seen you denounce the war"?

londons_explore 3y ago
It mostly happens via private messaging, but yes. It's part of the "you are either with us or against us" mentality of many campaign groups. See ~2 years ago when every opensource project was forced to publish a code of conduct and diversity and inclusion policy... Often the people asking for the policies weren't even users of the software involved, let alone interested in writing code for the proect. That campaign seems to have ended, and nobody cares if your project has either anymore.
- azangru 3y ago
  > That campaign seems to have ended, and nobody cares if your project has either anymore. Has the movement to rename every master branch to main quietened down as well?
  - dijit 3y ago
    Only because it was successful.
    - simoncion 3y ago
      There are many active 'master' branches at work, and many, many active 'master' branches on Github. By that measure, the movement to rename every 'master' branch to 'main' has been a resounding failure. (If you look at the events at the time it sprung up, you could pretty safely say that it was encouraged as a way to distract from the then-current "GitHub is doing business with US's ICE!" hatestorm, and man was it successful.)
      - dijit 3y ago
        If your only active metric is "all or nothing". Sure, there's a few. But the major git hosting platforms are only using 'main' as the default for new branches, and there is significant enough social stigma for new projects that it's preferred to use main. I don't have precise statistics, but I would happily wager that even though master was the default for so long that the majority of git repositories that have been contributed to in the last 30 days are not 'master' as the default branch name. To change a default with such inertia as to completely skew the demographic in favour of the new rather than the status quo: I would certainly merit that as success.
        justsomehnguy 3y ago
        > completely skew the demographic By 'twitter brigades trying to smear your name'. Great success!
  - anononaut 3y ago
    This still makes my blood boil. I've seen people dance around the word master now.
  - justrealist 3y ago
    GitHub changed the default to "main" so 95% of new projects will default there.
    - dijit 3y ago
      Gitlab too, and there is enough reason to believe the tool itself will change to “main”: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26488039 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26488039
unsupp0rted 3y ago
Remember that time a year ago in February when the Namecheap CEO gave every person with a Russian ID, living inside and outside Russia, 1-week notice that their account is terminated and they have to host elsewhere? Including expats, refugees, objectors, what have you. Your contract with Namecheap is terminated for being connected to Russia. Prove to us you're not, if you want to keep your service. His justification? Well we have a lot of Ukrainian staff and you know, we're not with Russia therefore we're against Russia, therefore... > If we were virtue signaling we wouldn't willingly be giving up a not non significant part of our business. This hurts us financially but it's the right thing to do, at least for us. Your leader/country is already killing innocent civilians/ukranians. They are putting it all on the line with their lives. They didn't ask for this yet they are dying for it. Change needs to come and the only way it can is for the Russian population to put it on the line as well. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30505789 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30505789
- talldatethrow 3y ago
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  - cpymchn 3y ago
    To take you literally for a moment: if anyone can claim land across a border, based on a historical grievance, then no border would stand. 70 years without a border war in Europe, so yeah we should try to push that water back up the hill. Otherwise a recursive "I would like my land back please."
    - _v7gu 3y ago
      70 years? I wish I was living in that Europe
    - h0h0h0h0111 3y ago
      Kosovo, Northern Ireland, Cyprus
  - unsupp0rted 3y ago
vogre 3y ago
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- jamespo 3y ago
  Oh no, not cancelling
- scrollaway 3y ago
  Don't generalize. Your statement, as-is, is nothing but flamebait. Some people do that. Some of those people are Ukrainian. I've also seen non-Ukrainians do it, and I know plenty of Ukrainians who aren't doing that, which falsifies your comment from the get-go. With that said, looking at your comment history, I'm just pissing in the wind saying that.
whimsicalism 3y ago
I have seen this numerous times on Twitter explicitly with almost the exact phrasing you are indicating.

londons_explore 3y ago

It mostly happens via private messaging, but yes. It's part of the "you are either with us or against us" mentality of many campaign groups. See ~2 years ago when every opensource project was forced to publish a code of conduct and diversity and inclusion policy... Often the people asking for the policies weren't even users of the software involved, let alone interested in writing code for the proect. That campaign seems to have ended, and nobody cares if your project has either anymore.

azangru 3y ago
> That campaign seems to have ended, and nobody cares if your project has either anymore. Has the movement to rename every master branch to main quietened down as well?
- dijit 3y ago
  Only because it was successful.
  - simoncion 3y ago
    There are many active 'master' branches at work, and many, many active 'master' branches on Github. By that measure, the movement to rename every 'master' branch to 'main' has been a resounding failure. (If you look at the events at the time it sprung up, you could pretty safely say that it was encouraged as a way to distract from the then-current "GitHub is doing business with US's ICE!" hatestorm, and man was it successful.)
    - dijit 3y ago
      If your only active metric is "all or nothing". Sure, there's a few. But the major git hosting platforms are only using 'main' as the default for new branches, and there is significant enough social stigma for new projects that it's preferred to use main. I don't have precise statistics, but I would happily wager that even though master was the default for so long that the majority of git repositories that have been contributed to in the last 30 days are not 'master' as the default branch name. To change a default with such inertia as to completely skew the demographic in favour of the new rather than the status quo: I would certainly merit that as success.
      - justsomehnguy 3y ago
        > completely skew the demographic By 'twitter brigades trying to smear your name'. Great success!
- anononaut 3y ago
  This still makes my blood boil. I've seen people dance around the word master now.
- justrealist 3y ago
  GitHub changed the default to "main" so 95% of new projects will default there.
  - dijit 3y ago
    Gitlab too, and there is enough reason to believe the tool itself will change to “main”: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26488039 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26488039

unsupp0rted 3y ago

Remember that time a year ago in February when the Namecheap CEO gave every person with a Russian ID, living inside and outside Russia, 1-week notice that their account is terminated and they have to host elsewhere? Including expats, refugees, objectors, what have you. Your contract with Namecheap is terminated for being connected to Russia. Prove to us you're not, if you want to keep your service. His justification? Well we have a lot of Ukrainian staff and you know, we're not with Russia therefore we're against Russia, therefore... > If we were virtue signaling we wouldn't willingly be giving up a not non significant part of our business. This hurts us financially but it's the right thing to do, at least for us. Your leader/country is already killing innocent civilians/ukranians. They are putting it all on the line with their lives. They didn't ask for this yet they are dying for it. Change needs to come and the only way it can is for the Russian population to put it on the line as well. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30505789 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30505789

talldatethrow 3y ago
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- cpymchn 3y ago
  To take you literally for a moment: if anyone can claim land across a border, based on a historical grievance, then no border would stand. 70 years without a border war in Europe, so yeah we should try to push that water back up the hill. Otherwise a recursive "I would like my land back please."
  - _v7gu 3y ago
    70 years? I wish I was living in that Europe
  - h0h0h0h0111 3y ago
    Kosovo, Northern Ireland, Cyprus
- unsupp0rted 3y ago

vogre 3y ago

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jamespo 3y ago
Oh no, not cancelling
scrollaway 3y ago
Don't generalize. Your statement, as-is, is nothing but flamebait. Some people do that. Some of those people are Ukrainian. I've also seen non-Ukrainians do it, and I know plenty of Ukrainians who aren't doing that, which falsifies your comment from the get-go. With that said, looking at your comment history, I'm just pissing in the wind saying that.

whimsicalism 3y ago

I have seen this numerous times on Twitter explicitly with almost the exact phrasing you are indicating.