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Asking users who live in New York. How much does this matter? Is the commute from Brooklyn or Queens reasonable? If so how are the prices? The Bronx has a bad r

• ethanbond 3y ago
  Prices pretty much reflect the commute. Live near a subway line or closer on that line to Manhattan: it’s in the price. NYC real estate is pretty shockingly efficient. If you think you found a great deal, you are almost certainly in for a bad time. Parts of each of the Boroughs are pretty sketchy. Again, the parts that are not: priced in!
  • bombcar 3y ago
    This is how it is. To get a “good deal” you have to change yourself. Perhaps you’re like Gaston and the size of a barge so sketchy doesn’t bother you - savings! Maybe you’re a dwarf who lives underground - savings!
• thebigjewbowski 3y ago
  Depends on where you’re going but neither are that bad, depends on where you live specifically in either of those places. The Bronx has higher crime for sure.
• kulikalov 3y ago
  Subway is filthy and unsafe. No one I know would use it late at night. Most of the worthy cultural events are happening around Central Park and downtown. So, if you want the good parts of New York experience without a slight risk of being stabbed by a crazy person, you better live in a walking distance to one of these locations or commute on a car all the time.
  • leveredequity 3y ago
    This is so disingenuous I don’t even know where to start.
    • Itsdijital 3y ago
      Conservative news circles have had this latent anti-NYC thing going on since Trump admonished it as a liberal mecca during his presidency. Then when the pandemic hit and NYC was devastated, they were practically holding group orgy parties to get each other off about the fall of the city. Then when the city started bouncing back it became "Well no, it's bouncing back as a dangerous crime ridden hell hole." The "NYC is dangerous" thing is literally just conservative cope for the failed collapse during the pandemic.
      • red-iron-pine 3y ago
        hating on NYC has been a thing since well before trump. even before george W
        • evanelias 3y ago
          Seriously. The whole "Ford to NYC: Drop Dead" thing was in 1975...
    • pclmulqdq 3y ago
      This pretty much describes the New York living experience of someone making a few million or with a trust fund, so it's an all-too-common perspective in Manhattan.
  • Grazester 3y ago
    This is nonsense. Did you just move to NYC or something?
    • supertofu 3y ago
      I suspect OP has never lived in New York...
  • paulgb 3y ago
    This describes a very sheltered experience of NYC. There are a ton of cultural events in other boroughs. I don’t know anyone who is afraid to ride the subway and wouldn’t consider it dirty by transit standards. I’ve been in NYC for nine years.
    • edouard-harris 3y ago
      Agree with you on the cultural events, but the NYC subway is definitely dirty compared to the systems of the two other cities I've lived in (Toronto and London). I was mostly in LIC and Manhattan though. Maybe it's not so dirty in the other boroughs?
    • slily 3y ago
      I question your standards if you don't think that the NYC subway is dirty. I've ridden public transit in several cities across three continents, lived in three NA cities including NYC, and it does not come close. Smelling urine inside a train station is not normal.
      • paulgb 3y ago
        I’ve ridden dozens of transit systems across four continents (I happen to collect transit means of payment as a weird hobby). Smelling urine is not a regular occurrence for me on the L or 4/5/6. Which lines do you usually ride? There are a lot of them and I know the experience varies.
        • slily 3y ago
          I rode the A and the 2/3/4 lines usually. Try standing near the edge of the track. You'll get a whiff. It's not just that either, there's also a ton of litter and way more homeless people in the system than I've seen anywhere else. It's unhygienic to the point that it's a joke to New Yorkers not to get on a train car that's empty. Never seen that elsewhere. Of course the state of the subway is a reflection of the city as a whole rather than an isolated issue, and that's true everywhere in my experience.
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  • tetromino_ 3y ago
    > No one I know would use it late at night. This does vary depending on the train and the station (I might recommend a tourist to avoid some stations on the J train at 3 am), but overwhelmingly most of the subway is safe at night, and more comfortable than during the day since you can actually get a seat. I ride it late at night, and so do many people I know.
  • bengold14 3y ago
    worthy cultural events.. what? You are missing out on like all of NYC
  • supertofu 3y ago
    Oh my, this isn't true in reality. Yes, there are crazy people on the subway but the vast majority of people encounter them without incident. It's very common to see small groups of kids traveling on the subway alone to get to school and they are perfectly safe. Cultural events in New York city span all 5 boroughs, by the way. Central Park and "downtown" are by no means the cultural heart of the city. Have you even lived in New York???
  • Terretta 3y ago
    We lived in midtown Manhattan for 5 years. To get to the interesting (non tourist trap) 'cultural events' usually took a subway, or for underserved areas, took taxi (via hail, and pay with Curb app) to a borough off Manhattan island. Return to midtown took Lyft/Uber. Commuting by car is an extraordinary waste of time with high opportunity cost unless you use a driver. Yes, the mega events are at Lincoln Center, Broadway, the Met, but that's very much like saying cultural TV is only on ABC, NBC, CBS, and FOX.
  • spread_love 3y ago
    > without a slight risk of being stabbed by a crazy person So you've never been to Port Authority...
• Grazester 3y ago
  South Bronx crime is back in full swing.
  • rafram 3y ago
    OK, so don’t move to the South Bronx.
• supertofu 3y ago
  Everyone I knew when I lived in New York lived in a Borough or up near Harlem. Neighborhoods like Long Island City in Queens or Greenpoint/Williamsburg/Bushwick in Brooklyn are just a couple stops away from Manhattan. And they are also FAR more desirable places to live in my opinion. Quieter and more like actual neighborhoods.
• nickjj 3y ago
  You could go further out to Long Island but rent isn't cheap here either and you end up trading time for money if you like visiting NYC. From about the middle of Long Island it's a 90 minute train ride that costs $28.50 round trip during off-peak hours. Driving really isn't any cheaper due to tolls, parking fees and new policies being put in place to tax driving through popular areas of Manhattan[0]. The allure to going out this far is there's a lot of suburbs, parks, bodies of water, etc. but at the same time it's not a huge ordeal to visit NYC for day trips. [0]: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-05-12/nyc-congestion-pricing-is-coming-to-manhattan-as-soon-as-april-2024 https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-05-12/nyc-conge...
  • kjkjadksj 3y ago
    I presume at this point people are also considering places like pennsylvania. You can get the same exact woodsy eastern township suburia experience in long island as you could all over the east coast, but in the vicinity of philadelphia or even baltimore you can also still take day trips to nyc on a train, and are saving money hand over fist over anything in long island to boot so you could take even more of them. I think its a matter of time before these regions explode, if they aren’t already, just from the outflow from the nyc region.
    • woodruffw 3y ago
      People have been saying this for over 20 years; it hasn't materialized yet. A large part of NYC and the immediate surrounding area's appeal is that you don't have to do day trips: everything is 30 minutes away, or less.
      • kjkjadksj 3y ago
        Isn’t the more suburban part of long island more like 90 minutes from the city? 30 minutes from the city I imagine limits your geography severely to these uber expensive parts of the area where space is a premium.
• rafram 3y ago
  It matters, but there are still plenty of affordable parts of NYC with an easy commute to Manhattan’s office districts. Living in Manhattan has meant $4000 shoebox apartment for years now; you can find nice, spacious apartments in Brooklyn, right on the subway, for a whole lot less than the Manhattan median. The subway is pretty fast, it runs 24 hours a day, and it gets you anywhere you’d want to go within the city. Bikeshare deals with the corner cases where a trip between two nearby-ish neighborhoods doesn’t have a good subway connection. The only reason I’d ever drive in New York is if I got a U-Haul for moving.
• Keyframe 3y ago
  Or NJ? It's not that far off.
• spread_love 3y ago
  Commute from BK or Queens is still feasible, they are BIG boroughs so it differs on which part. Prices are lower but climbing, especially in neighborhoods very close to Manhattan. Bronx still has a high crime rate; depends on where. Tremont and Highbridge are pretty rough. Lots of the Bronx is still as safe or safer than, say, East Harlem (in Manhattan).
• woodruffw 3y ago
  NYC is a large city; there are parts of Brooklyn and Queens that have very reasonable commutes into Manhattan (particularly lower Manhattan), and other parts with extremely long/essentially impossible commutes. The part of Brooklyn that I live in is somewhat cheap, and it takes me about 35 minutes on average to get to Lower Manhattan. I pay about $1600 a month in rent, sharing a 2 floor 3BR with a roommate. The people I know in the area pay similar amounts. I went to high school in the Bronx; it has good and bad areas like everywhere else in the city, but I think its bad reputation is largely undeserved. My guess is that we’re going to see a lot of “rebranding” of Bronx neighborhoods to make them more palatable over the next decade. (And note: all boroughs in NYC are both residential and commercial, so lots of people don’t commute into Manhattan at all.)