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This seems so weird to me. You're clearly providing value to the world, and according to my moral view, should be entitled to capturing some of that value witho

This seems so weird to me. You're clearly providing value to the world, and according to my moral view, should be entitled to capturing some of that value without resorting to something shady. I'm the founder of Streak where we directly monetize our extension (as do others like Grammarly). Have you tried directly asking your users for $ given the effort you put in?

sandinmyjoints 3y ago
Thank you for InboxSDK! Have had a pleasant experience using it.
- alooPotato 3y ago
  :)
nerdponx 3y ago
I use several Firefox extensions that periodically nag me for money. I appreciate it because otherwise I would forget to donate. But now that I have monthly donations set up for several of them, I wish there was a way to turn it off.
- Semaphor 3y ago
  > I wish there was a way to turn it off. Most FOSS android apps asking for donations do that: Sometimes a button in the donation-nag "I already donated", but pretty much every time a setting "stop asking, I either already donated or won’t donate".
malermeister 3y ago
I can't speak for parent, but some (including myself) see writing free software as an act of charity, done just to make the world a little bit better. In this view, trying to make money from it corrupts the noble mission.
- gitgud 3y ago
  > In this view, trying to make money from it corrupts the noble mission. Agreed, making money from charity doesn’t make sense. Business revolves around secrecy and restrictions. Whereas open-source revolves around transparency and freedoms…
q87b 3y ago
Why would money be the only value, that is a really sad view on life. The developer gets joy and gratitude, they can live a happy life. Why bring money into it. Money does not make happy.
- Dylan16807 3y ago
  > Why would money be the only value, that is a really sad view on life. Good thing nobody said that. > The developer gets joy and gratitude, Your average free software doesn't get very much joy and gratitude back from users either. > they can live a happy life. Why bring money into it. Money does not make happy. If the implication was too subtle, the idea is that when you spend a lot of time making something valuable, it should go towards obtaining food and shelter and the other benefits of a living wage. And those things do make happy.
  - q87b 3y ago
    The post I replied to clearly equals value with money.
    - Dylan16807 3y ago
      It connects them, it doesn't say they're the same. Money is an important type of value, especially the context of labor. And, let me phrase this very precisely: there isn't an obvious non-monetary value they're getting back that comes close to the effort they put in. You mentioned joy and gratitude but again I'm not sure how much of that they get back in this situation, plus there is the flip side of lots of complaints.
cal85 3y ago
I believe in capitalism. I am 100% in favour of making money by offering something people are willing to pay for. Some extensions are monetizable by honestly asking users to pay for access. Mine just isn’t. It’s only as popular as it is because it’s free and open source and promises total privacy.
shpx 3y ago
Making 2 million people individually decide and record how much of their economic output a JSON formatting extension is entitled to is a non-negligible amount of mental effort and time, especially if we had to do it for all extensions and software we use.

sandinmyjoints 3y ago

Thank you for InboxSDK! Have had a pleasant experience using it.

alooPotato 3y ago
:)

nerdponx 3y ago

I use several Firefox extensions that periodically nag me for money. I appreciate it because otherwise I would forget to donate. But now that I have monthly donations set up for several of them, I wish there was a way to turn it off.

Semaphor 3y ago
> I wish there was a way to turn it off. Most FOSS android apps asking for donations do that: Sometimes a button in the donation-nag "I already donated", but pretty much every time a setting "stop asking, I either already donated or won’t donate".

malermeister 3y ago

I can't speak for parent, but some (including myself) see writing free software as an act of charity, done just to make the world a little bit better. In this view, trying to make money from it corrupts the noble mission.

gitgud 3y ago
> In this view, trying to make money from it corrupts the noble mission. Agreed, making money from charity doesn’t make sense. Business revolves around secrecy and restrictions. Whereas open-source revolves around transparency and freedoms…

q87b 3y ago

Why would money be the only value, that is a really sad view on life. The developer gets joy and gratitude, they can live a happy life. Why bring money into it. Money does not make happy.

Dylan16807 3y ago
> Why would money be the only value, that is a really sad view on life. Good thing nobody said that. > The developer gets joy and gratitude, Your average free software doesn't get very much joy and gratitude back from users either. > they can live a happy life. Why bring money into it. Money does not make happy. If the implication was too subtle, the idea is that when you spend a lot of time making something valuable, it should go towards obtaining food and shelter and the other benefits of a living wage. And those things do make happy.
- q87b 3y ago
  The post I replied to clearly equals value with money.
  - Dylan16807 3y ago
    It connects them, it doesn't say they're the same. Money is an important type of value, especially the context of labor. And, let me phrase this very precisely: there isn't an obvious non-monetary value they're getting back that comes close to the effort they put in. You mentioned joy and gratitude but again I'm not sure how much of that they get back in this situation, plus there is the flip side of lots of complaints.

cal85 3y ago

I believe in capitalism. I am 100% in favour of making money by offering something people are willing to pay for. Some extensions are monetizable by honestly asking users to pay for access. Mine just isn’t. It’s only as popular as it is because it’s free and open source and promises total privacy.

shpx 3y ago

Making 2 million people individually decide and record how much of their economic output a JSON formatting extension is entitled to is a non-negligible amount of mental effort and time, especially if we had to do it for all extensions and software we use.