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Finally. Now I just hope they don't institute some dumb program where it only talks to Apple devices or some crap.

extraduder_ire 3y ago
The EU has already said that would be illegal. Apple may still do it, but I expect they'd stop pretty soon after an import ban happens. (I don't think they do any manufacturing in the EU anymore)
CharlesW 3y ago
> Now I just hope they don't institute some dumb program where it only talks to Apple devices or some crap. The behavior will be the same as it is on iPads, which have had USB-C for 5 years.
- skavi 3y ago
  to be fair, not even all iPads with USB-C have the same behavior. (The fancier Pros are Thunderbolt/USB 4).
  - Gigachad 3y ago
    They all support base level USB. Thunderbolt is an additional featureset. It's not like Apple is doing anything unusual or proprietary here.
- sfmike 3y ago
  how do you know?
ShadowBanThis01 3y ago
Oh, they will. Apple will cripple the port with some BS excuse about "security."
- postmodest 3y ago
  I can only assume you pick up the USB sticks that litter your office parking lot and plug them in? ...apples USB security already works on the iPad, and only allows charging until you authorize the device. And if you know anything about this stuff, that's better than other vendors.
  - kstenerud 3y ago
    I know something about this stuff, and Android does the same: charging only until you authorize the connected device.
  - ShadowBanThis01 3y ago
    I seriously have no idea what you're talking about. I'm talking about Apple denying developers access to the USB port, the way they always have with the Lightning port and the iPod port before it. They've even crippled Bluetooth.
musicale 3y ago
> Finally Besides the fact that USB-C didn't exist at the time, I can't see any reason for Apple developing Lightning in the first place. ;-)
- 65a 3y ago
  USB-C has existed for almost a decade, ~2014.
  - IshKebab 3y ago
    Lightning has existed for over a decade, since 2012.
    - musicale 3y ago
      Indeed. Apple used the 30-pin dock connector for ~10 years and followed it up with Lightning for another ~10 years. USB-C came after lightning, and as I understand it Apple staff participated in the design and standardization process, being concerned with things like making the connector symmetric (like lightning) and being firm enough to not fall out but weak enough to yank out without sending your laptop crashing to the floor, and supporting high data rates/thunderbolt as well as high-power/fast charging. My personal pet peeve with lightning is that the power pins seem to burn out after a while.

The EU has already said that would be illegal. Apple may still do it, but I expect they'd stop pretty soon after an import ban happens. (I don't think they do any manufacturing in the EU anymore)

CharlesW 3y ago

> Now I just hope they don't institute some dumb program where it only talks to Apple devices or some crap. The behavior will be the same as it is on iPads, which have had USB-C for 5 years.

skavi 3y ago
to be fair, not even all iPads with USB-C have the same behavior. (The fancier Pros are Thunderbolt/USB 4).
- Gigachad 3y ago
  They all support base level USB. Thunderbolt is an additional featureset. It's not like Apple is doing anything unusual or proprietary here.
sfmike 3y ago
how do you know?

ShadowBanThis01 3y ago

Oh, they will. Apple will cripple the port with some BS excuse about "security."

postmodest 3y ago
I can only assume you pick up the USB sticks that litter your office parking lot and plug them in? ...apples USB security already works on the iPad, and only allows charging until you authorize the device. And if you know anything about this stuff, that's better than other vendors.
- kstenerud 3y ago
  I know something about this stuff, and Android does the same: charging only until you authorize the connected device.
- ShadowBanThis01 3y ago
  I seriously have no idea what you're talking about. I'm talking about Apple denying developers access to the USB port, the way they always have with the Lightning port and the iPod port before it. They've even crippled Bluetooth.

musicale 3y ago

> Finally Besides the fact that USB-C didn't exist at the time, I can't see any reason for Apple developing Lightning in the first place. ;-)

65a 3y ago
USB-C has existed for almost a decade, ~2014.
- IshKebab 3y ago
  Lightning has existed for over a decade, since 2012.
  - musicale 3y ago
    Indeed. Apple used the 30-pin dock connector for ~10 years and followed it up with Lightning for another ~10 years. USB-C came after lightning, and as I understand it Apple staff participated in the design and standardization process, being concerned with things like making the connector symmetric (like lightning) and being firm enough to not fall out but weak enough to yank out without sending your laptop crashing to the floor, and supporting high data rates/thunderbolt as well as high-power/fast charging. My personal pet peeve with lightning is that the power pins seem to burn out after a while.