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Grindr Tells Unionizing Workers: Move Across the Country or Be Fired

36 points by treldorian 3y ago

coldtea 3y ago
I'm certain the company is all for human rights too...
tamimio 3y ago
I never understood why corps in US (even in Canada) aren’t regulated enough like how they are in Europe for example, imagine getting fired just for asking for a union!? Instead of useless crys and wars over musk’s next move, how about actually dealing with the real problems?
- toomuchtodo 3y ago
  It’s illegal to terminate employees for attempting to unionize. https://www.nlrb.gov/about-nlrb/rights-we-protect/the-law/discriminating-against-employees-because-of-their-union https://www.nlrb.gov/about-nlrb/rights-we-protect/the-law/di...
  - tr_user 3y ago
    and how does enforcement look?
    - toomuchtodo 3y ago
      Getting better. Certainly, it’s a long road ahead in the fight against labor violations and abuse. https://www.nlrb.gov/news-publications/news/news-releases https://www.nlrb.gov/news-publications/news/news-releases
    - thewildginger 3y ago
      In the US? It's an incredibly slow process with a designated separate court system with seperate labor laws. Oh yeah and solidarity strikes are illegal. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solidarity_action https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solidarity_action The police can't be defunded but the US National Labor Relations Board had to resduce it's staff by 50% from 2002 to 2022, with bipartisan support! https://thehill.com/opinion/congress-blog/civil-rights/3783987-congress-finally-invested-in-workers-by-funding-the-nlrb-but-its-only-a-first-step/ https://thehill.com/opinion/congress-blog/civil-rights/37839...
- fabifabulous 3y ago
  Because in the US it‘s easy to call anything “socialism“ that is labelled a “social market economy“ in most other places in the world.
  - sneed_chucker 3y ago
    It certainly doesn't help that some American leftists call themselves "democratic socialists" while having views that are more inline with European social democracies.
add-sub-mul-div 3y ago
Covid was for many people a Rorschach test that let them predict or believe whatever their desired change to society, it would become permanent. But the original unknown, uncontrolled, emergency form of covid was always likely to be temporary. Some people in service jobs thought work was over, or should be. People said movie theaters would die. Maybe people who already didn't like theaters. It was supposed to be the death of brick and mortar retail. Of cities. People prone to fearing impractically theatrical methods of control by governments thought we'd be forcibly under house arrest for good, or that businesses would never be allowed to reopen. I never understood how this should benefit local governments, why they were waiting for this opportunity to force people to wear masks and collect unemployment and spend their money online instead of locally. Many people in a community with a high percentage of introverts who work in a city with real estate that makes it too expensive to live close to their office thought that working from home would last forever. Some things are taking longer to get back to normal than others, but we knew fairly early on that a few promising vaccines were in development. I never understood why it didn't feel likely that society would get back to its old status quo in the most fundamental ways. We're a social species, period. We're not Solarians. We don't want to become the society from Wall-E.
- tycho-newman 3y ago
  The humans in Wall-E are all fat and happy. Plus they get a second chance at rebuilding the world. Sounds like a good deal to me?
  - mvdtnz 3y ago
    If your takeaway from Wall-E was that the human characters were aspirational I don't even know what to say. Suffice to say most people don't see it that way.
    - tycho-newman 3y ago
      The human characters in Wall-E had more to look forward to than most of us. Perhaps that is why apocalyptic fiction is compelling. It is as way of wiping the slate clean.
rkallos 3y ago
Here is Grindr's unionization website: https://grindrunited.org/ https://grindrunited.org/
- thewildginger 3y ago
  When you're at work you're not a human being, duh. You're company property.
CraigRo 3y ago
Bold strategy of reorganizing based on willingness to move, though I don't know the history of ether the teams were located. Seems terribly disruptive, but so is a union; one outcome is that everyone loses their job and the assets are sold to match
- guax 3y ago
  How is a union disruptive?
  - deleted 3y ago
    [deleted]
- patmorgan23 3y ago
  Employees fighting unionization and refusing to negotiate with unions is disruptive. Unions themselves are not.
Xorakios 3y ago
The 50 mile rule is an IRS regulation that is being increasingly enforced. https://www.irs.gov/irm/part1/irm_01-032-001 https://www.irs.gov/irm/part1/irm_01-032-001

36 points by treldorian 3y ago

I'm certain the company is all for human rights too...

I never understood why corps in US (even in Canada) aren’t regulated enough like how they are in Europe for example, imagine getting fired just for asking for a union!? Instead of useless crys and wars over musk’s next move, how about actually dealing with the real problems?

toomuchtodo 3y ago
It’s illegal to terminate employees for attempting to unionize. https://www.nlrb.gov/about-nlrb/rights-we-protect/the-law/discriminating-against-employees-because-of-their-union https://www.nlrb.gov/about-nlrb/rights-we-protect/the-law/di...
- tr_user 3y ago
  and how does enforcement look?
  - toomuchtodo 3y ago
    Getting better. Certainly, it’s a long road ahead in the fight against labor violations and abuse. https://www.nlrb.gov/news-publications/news/news-releases https://www.nlrb.gov/news-publications/news/news-releases
  - thewildginger 3y ago
    In the US? It's an incredibly slow process with a designated separate court system with seperate labor laws. Oh yeah and solidarity strikes are illegal. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solidarity_action https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solidarity_action The police can't be defunded but the US National Labor Relations Board had to resduce it's staff by 50% from 2002 to 2022, with bipartisan support! https://thehill.com/opinion/congress-blog/civil-rights/3783987-congress-finally-invested-in-workers-by-funding-the-nlrb-but-its-only-a-first-step/ https://thehill.com/opinion/congress-blog/civil-rights/37839...
fabifabulous 3y ago
Because in the US it‘s easy to call anything “socialism“ that is labelled a “social market economy“ in most other places in the world.
- sneed_chucker 3y ago
  It certainly doesn't help that some American leftists call themselves "democratic socialists" while having views that are more inline with European social democracies.

add-sub-mul-div 3y ago

Covid was for many people a Rorschach test that let them predict or believe whatever their desired change to society, it would become permanent. But the original unknown, uncontrolled, emergency form of covid was always likely to be temporary. Some people in service jobs thought work was over, or should be. People said movie theaters would die. Maybe people who already didn't like theaters. It was supposed to be the death of brick and mortar retail. Of cities. People prone to fearing impractically theatrical methods of control by governments thought we'd be forcibly under house arrest for good, or that businesses would never be allowed to reopen. I never understood how this should benefit local governments, why they were waiting for this opportunity to force people to wear masks and collect unemployment and spend their money online instead of locally. Many people in a community with a high percentage of introverts who work in a city with real estate that makes it too expensive to live close to their office thought that working from home would last forever. Some things are taking longer to get back to normal than others, but we knew fairly early on that a few promising vaccines were in development. I never understood why it didn't feel likely that society would get back to its old status quo in the most fundamental ways. We're a social species, period. We're not Solarians. We don't want to become the society from Wall-E.

tycho-newman 3y ago
The humans in Wall-E are all fat and happy. Plus they get a second chance at rebuilding the world. Sounds like a good deal to me?
- mvdtnz 3y ago
  If your takeaway from Wall-E was that the human characters were aspirational I don't even know what to say. Suffice to say most people don't see it that way.
  - tycho-newman 3y ago
    The human characters in Wall-E had more to look forward to than most of us. Perhaps that is why apocalyptic fiction is compelling. It is as way of wiping the slate clean.

rkallos 3y ago

Here is Grindr's unionization website: https://grindrunited.org/ https://grindrunited.org/

thewildginger 3y ago
When you're at work you're not a human being, duh. You're company property.

CraigRo 3y ago

Bold strategy of reorganizing based on willingness to move, though I don't know the history of ether the teams were located. Seems terribly disruptive, but so is a union; one outcome is that everyone loses their job and the assets are sold to match

guax 3y ago
How is a union disruptive?
- deleted 3y ago
  [deleted]
patmorgan23 3y ago
Employees fighting unionization and refusing to negotiate with unions is disruptive. Unions themselves are not.

Xorakios 3y ago

The 50 mile rule is an IRS regulation that is being increasingly enforced. https://www.irs.gov/irm/part1/irm_01-032-001 https://www.irs.gov/irm/part1/irm_01-032-001