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"It’s easy to understand why people in less-educated classes would conclude that they are under economic, political, cultural and moral assault — and why they’v

"It’s easy to understand why people in less-educated classes would conclude that they are under economic, political, cultural and moral assault — and why they’ve rallied around Trump as their best warrior against the educated class." The author assumes that the demographic of Trump supporters includes more "less-educated" people than non-Trump supporters without presenting any supporting evidence or citations. I'd like to see some statistics to support this assumption. Victor Davis Hanson (PhD, Stanford) wrote a piece yesterday that well explains why educated people support Trump. https://victorhanson.com/the-remaking-of-america/ https://victorhanson.com/the-remaking-of-america/

skulk 3y ago
This article is written by an ideologue and doesn't even make an attempt to speak to those outside their reality bubble. > Never in U.S. history have the Department of Justice and sympathetic state and local prosecutors indicted a leading opposition candidate and likely nominee of one of the two major parties, and at the beginning of a presidential campaign. Eugh, completely unconvincing. Never in US history has a former POTUS attempted to thwart succession of the presidency, not to mention the keeping of classified documents after leaving office and bragging about it. Trying to frame this as purely a political game isn't going to work on anyone actually paying attention (read the indictment[0] and tell me that it's all just posturing/political blustering) > The media routinely accuses conservative justices of improper or illegal behavior, without worry about the emptiness of the charges. Cool, let's just completely memory-hole Clarence Thomas's totally not suspicious gifts[1] from rich people. This author loses absolutely all credibility here. The mask of an ideologue slips off real quick. [0]: https://www.justice.gov/storage/US_v_Trump_23_cr_257.pdf https://www.justice.gov/storage/US_v_Trump_23_cr_257.pdf [1]: https://www.propublica.org/article/clarence-thomas-scotus-undisclosed-luxury-travel-gifts-crow https://www.propublica.org/article/clarence-thomas-scotus-un...
- icantbebothered 3y ago
  Not to mention getting spies and informants killed. https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/05/us/politics/cia-informants-killed-captured.html https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/05/us/politics/cia-informant...
clipsy 3y ago
> The author assumes that the demographic of Trump supporters includes more "less-educated" people than non-Trump supporters without presenting any supporting evidence or citations. I'd like to see some statistics to support this assumption. > Victor Davis Hanson (PhD, Stanford) wrote a piece yesterday that well explains why educated people support Trump. If you're going to complain about a lack of data (which is wholly reasonable!) then you should probably refrain from linking an alternative view which also fails to present any data. The best data I could quickly find shows[0] a noticeable but not gigantic skew towards Democrats/Biden among college-educated voters in 2020, and a report from Pew[1] with finer grained categories shows a nearly 2:1 ratio of (registered) Democrats:Republicans among voters with postgraduate educations in 2019. [0]: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/11/03/us/elections/exit-polls-president.html https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/11/03/us/elections/... [1]: https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2020/10/26/what-the-2020-electorate-looks-like-by-party-race-and-ethnicity-age-education-and-religion/ https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2020/10/26/what-the-...
dragonwriter 3y ago
Never in US history has someone already under multiple major, publicly known criminal investigations declared themself a candidate for the Presidency and become the frontrunner of a major party. But, yeah, declaring yourself a candidate isn’t a get out of crime free card. The GOP likes to say its the state and federal governments unprecedentedly criminalizing politics but that’s just a distraction from the fact that the GOP is unprecedentedly, for a major party, making criminality their politics.

skulk 3y ago

This article is written by an ideologue and doesn't even make an attempt to speak to those outside their reality bubble. > Never in U.S. history have the Department of Justice and sympathetic state and local prosecutors indicted a leading opposition candidate and likely nominee of one of the two major parties, and at the beginning of a presidential campaign. Eugh, completely unconvincing. Never in US history has a former POTUS attempted to thwart succession of the presidency, not to mention the keeping of classified documents after leaving office and bragging about it. Trying to frame this as purely a political game isn't going to work on anyone actually paying attention (read the indictment[0] and tell me that it's all just posturing/political blustering) > The media routinely accuses conservative justices of improper or illegal behavior, without worry about the emptiness of the charges. Cool, let's just completely memory-hole Clarence Thomas's totally not suspicious gifts[1] from rich people. This author loses absolutely all credibility here. The mask of an ideologue slips off real quick. [0]: https://www.justice.gov/storage/US_v_Trump_23_cr_257.pdf https://www.justice.gov/storage/US_v_Trump_23_cr_257.pdf [1]: https://www.propublica.org/article/clarence-thomas-scotus-undisclosed-luxury-travel-gifts-crow https://www.propublica.org/article/clarence-thomas-scotus-un...

icantbebothered 3y ago
Not to mention getting spies and informants killed. https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/05/us/politics/cia-informants-killed-captured.html https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/05/us/politics/cia-informant...

clipsy 3y ago

> The author assumes that the demographic of Trump supporters includes more "less-educated" people than non-Trump supporters without presenting any supporting evidence or citations. I'd like to see some statistics to support this assumption. > Victor Davis Hanson (PhD, Stanford) wrote a piece yesterday that well explains why educated people support Trump. If you're going to complain about a lack of data (which is wholly reasonable!) then you should probably refrain from linking an alternative view which also fails to present any data. The best data I could quickly find shows[0] a noticeable but not gigantic skew towards Democrats/Biden among college-educated voters in 2020, and a report from Pew[1] with finer grained categories shows a nearly 2:1 ratio of (registered) Democrats:Republicans among voters with postgraduate educations in 2019. [0]: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/11/03/us/elections/exit-polls-president.html https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/11/03/us/elections/... [1]: https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2020/10/26/what-the-2020-electorate-looks-like-by-party-race-and-ethnicity-age-education-and-religion/ https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2020/10/26/what-the-...

dragonwriter 3y ago

Never in US history has someone already under multiple major, publicly known criminal investigations declared themself a candidate for the Presidency and become the frontrunner of a major party. But, yeah, declaring yourself a candidate isn’t a get out of crime free card. The GOP likes to say its the state and federal governments unprecedentedly criminalizing politics but that’s just a distraction from the fact that the GOP is unprecedentedly, for a major party, making criminality their politics.