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Remember: upvoting the EFF's articles is good, but you (yes, you!) can also donate to them to help with these campaigns!

smegsicle 3y ago
but i just gave all my money to uganda...
tailspin2019 3y ago
Agreed. I have a lot of respect for the work they do. They make some cool merch too: https://supporters.eff.org/donate/ https://supporters.eff.org/donate/
- freedomben 3y ago
  Can anyone speak to the quality of the shirts? I bought one many years ago at a Linux conference and the design was cool but the shirt itself feels like cardboard and sandpaper, so I never wear it. If the shirts are Bella Canvas or American Life or something else high quality, I'd happily buy some. Tshirts are a great way to raise funds IMHO, and the EFF is doing extremely important work and needs to be funded.
  - bsilvereagle 3y ago
    The sizing charts give the shirt manufacturer: https://supporters.eff.org/t-shirt-size-chart#watcheru https://supporters.eff.org/t-shirt-size-chart#watcheru
    - freedomben 3y ago
      Wonderful! Thank you, this is even better than I hoped for :-)
minerva23 3y ago
I had donated to the EFF in the past, but their stance[1] that CDNs/hosted services shouldn't be allowed to choose the customers they are willing work with is not only wrong, it's causes harm[2]. [1] https://www.eff.org/press/releases/international-coalition-rights-groups-call-internet-infrastructure-providers-avoid https://www.eff.org/press/releases/international-coalition-r... [2] https://blog.cloudflare.com/kiwifarms-blocked/ https://blog.cloudflare.com/kiwifarms-blocked/
- coldpie 3y ago
  I agree with you in disagreeing with EFF's stance on that issue. However, I think the good work they do in other areas makes them still a worthy place to put money, so I continue to donate to them. I definitely understand if others feel more strongly about that issue, though.
- tekla 3y ago
  I'm happy to make up the loss with my donations.
- JohnFen 3y ago
  I'm a strong supporter of EFF -- but you know what? I don't agree with every position they take. I can't think of any organization (or person) that I agree with 100%. If perfect alignment with my worldview were a prerequisite, I'd be unable to support anything or anyone. Instead, I look at the total effect. On the whole, EFF (in my opinion) does far more good than ill, so they have my support.
- fallingknife 3y ago
  You are essentially saying that we should have to ask permission from large corporations to be able to effectively run a website. For all practical purposes that means no free speech on the internet.
  - minerva23 3y ago
    Freedom of speech meaning freedom from consequences has never existed, and will never exist. Infringing on a company's freedom of association does not eliminate consequences for speech. This is about freedom of association and the right (or lack thereof) to other people's broadcast equipment.

smegsicle 3y ago

but i just gave all my money to uganda...

tailspin2019 3y ago

Agreed. I have a lot of respect for the work they do. They make some cool merch too: https://supporters.eff.org/donate/ https://supporters.eff.org/donate/

freedomben 3y ago
Can anyone speak to the quality of the shirts? I bought one many years ago at a Linux conference and the design was cool but the shirt itself feels like cardboard and sandpaper, so I never wear it. If the shirts are Bella Canvas or American Life or something else high quality, I'd happily buy some. Tshirts are a great way to raise funds IMHO, and the EFF is doing extremely important work and needs to be funded.
- bsilvereagle 3y ago
  The sizing charts give the shirt manufacturer: https://supporters.eff.org/t-shirt-size-chart#watcheru https://supporters.eff.org/t-shirt-size-chart#watcheru
  - freedomben 3y ago
    Wonderful! Thank you, this is even better than I hoped for :-)

minerva23 3y ago

I had donated to the EFF in the past, but their stance[1] that CDNs/hosted services shouldn't be allowed to choose the customers they are willing work with is not only wrong, it's causes harm[2]. [1] https://www.eff.org/press/releases/international-coalition-rights-groups-call-internet-infrastructure-providers-avoid https://www.eff.org/press/releases/international-coalition-r... [2] https://blog.cloudflare.com/kiwifarms-blocked/ https://blog.cloudflare.com/kiwifarms-blocked/

coldpie 3y ago
I agree with you in disagreeing with EFF's stance on that issue. However, I think the good work they do in other areas makes them still a worthy place to put money, so I continue to donate to them. I definitely understand if others feel more strongly about that issue, though.
tekla 3y ago
I'm happy to make up the loss with my donations.
JohnFen 3y ago
I'm a strong supporter of EFF -- but you know what? I don't agree with every position they take. I can't think of any organization (or person) that I agree with 100%. If perfect alignment with my worldview were a prerequisite, I'd be unable to support anything or anyone. Instead, I look at the total effect. On the whole, EFF (in my opinion) does far more good than ill, so they have my support.
fallingknife 3y ago
You are essentially saying that we should have to ask permission from large corporations to be able to effectively run a website. For all practical purposes that means no free speech on the internet.
- minerva23 3y ago
  Freedom of speech meaning freedom from consequences has never existed, and will never exist. Infringing on a company's freedom of association does not eliminate consequences for speech. This is about freedom of association and the right (or lack thereof) to other people's broadcast equipment.