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An open-source alternative is Organic Maps: https://github.com/organicmaps/organicmaps https://github.com/organicmaps/organicmaps

kzrdude 3y ago
Does it have live traffic information? It looks quite polished but for an offline feature set OsmAnd~ has a lot more and is more established. OsmAnd does not (to my knowledge) have any live traffic info.
- benoliver999 3y ago
  No
- OGWhales 3y ago
  Unfortunately it does not have live traffic data like the app it is forked from, maps.me. Hopefully they add it, but there aren’t many good open traffic projects that exist, so they’d need to rely on crowd sourced data like Magic Earth is doing and I’m not sure how well that would work.
- hk__2 3y ago
  > It looks quite polished but for an offline feature set OsmAnd~ has a lot more and is more established OrganicMaps is a fork of Maps.me, which is very well known among the general public: 55k ratings on the Apple Store and 50M downloads on the Play Store for Maps.me vs. 1.8k and 10M for OsmAnd. Unfortunately a lot of people who use Maps.me/OrganicMaps don’t know that maps come from OSM, whereas with OsmAnd it’s clear right from the name.
  - kzrdude 3y ago
    OsmAnd feels like an app for a map nerd, and I like it.
  - matkoniecz 3y ago
    > Unfortunately a lot of people who use Maps.me/OrganicMaps don’t know that maps come from OSM OM has quite clear attribution, as required by ODBL license of OpenStreetMap data.
- JeremyNT 3y ago
  Compared to OsmAnd, Organic Maps is quite basic. The advantage is that it does have a very streamlined UI, so if you just want to get to a map and navigate it's far more straightforward. You really need to spend some time to understand the "quirks" of how to use OsmAnd (a downside of its long feature list).
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executesorder66 3y ago
I tend to agree with admaiora. And Organic Maps is a cool project. However I shared this post because it's the first OSM based map/routing project I've seen that actually has traffic data. I thought that was interesting. It is disappointing that the traffic info isn't open as well.
striking 3y ago
I ended up in the winding mountain roads near Saratoga without cell service, and though I had SF downloaded on Google Maps, I hadn't added the rest of the Bay. We decided we wanted to change our destination and realized we wouldn't have any further navigation only after canceling our current trip. But then I remembered I had Organic Maps tucked away, ready to go, with a highly detailed map of California for offline navigation use. Big thanks to Organic Maps for making me seem prepared and allowing me to recover gracefully from what could otherwise have been a somewhat annoying situation.
- Zak 3y ago
  I always keep Organic Maps in reserve. Waze and Google Maps provide better navigation when they're working, but I've had them fail in places lacking mobile data even when I had offline maps downloaded to Google Maps. I've never seen Organic Maps fail.
  - hedora 3y ago
    Here We Go’s (previously, Nokia Maps) offline support is as good as Organic Maps, and the routing is as good as Google/Apple. It runs on iOS and Android. CarPlay support is good. Haven’t tried android’s car ui. I use it on my iPhone, but I’m rooting for OSM, long term. I’d happily pay a bit to a company that put the money towards an open source, privacy preserving OSM app, and towards improving the upstream map data.
    - richiebful1 3y ago
      How is address lookup? That's the only bad thing about OSM based apps vs Google Maps in my region (rural Kentucky)
      - troyvit 3y ago
        It worked well when I used it. It was bought by Microsoft and is suffering the usual degradation that comes with that, but it's still a good app.
mdaniel 3y ago
> Receiving objects: 100% (556180/556180), 5.88 GiB | 3.33 MiB/s, done. What the holy hell is going on with that repo? do they `git add local.osm.dump` or something? I mean, I was kidding but evidently not that crazy far off: https://github.com/organicmaps/organicmaps/blob/master/data/World.mwm https://github.com/organicmaps/organicmaps/blob/master/data/... I was expecting to find `git add release/organicmaps-1.0.apk` which is a super common "I've never used git before" antipattern --- since I already paid the price, some `git archive HEAD | tar -tvf - | sort -k3 -n` coughed up -rw-rw-r-- root/root 1854526 2023-08-07 05:45 android/src/fdroid/play/listings/en-US/graphics/phone-screenshots/1.jpg -rw-rw-r-- root/root 1863096 2023-08-07 05:45 tools/shaders_compiler/linux/mali_compiler_es3/openglessl/libMali-T600_r11p0-00rel0.so -rw-rw-r-- root/root 2583640 2023-08-07 05:45 tools/shaders_compiler/linux/mali_compiler_es3/openglessl/libMali-T600_r12p0-00rel0.so -rw-rw-r-- root/root 3017640 2023-08-07 05:45 tools/shaders_compiler/linux/mali_compiler_es3/openglessl/libMali-T600_r13p0-00rel0.so -rw-rw-r-- root/root 3155104 2023-08-07 05:45 data/06_code2000.ttf -rw-rw-r-- root/root 3451900 2023-08-07 05:45 data/02_droidsans-fallback.ttf -rw-rw-r-- root/root 3676527 2023-08-07 05:45 data/packed_polygons.bin -rw-rw-r-- root/root 4696613 2023-08-07 05:45 software_renderer/default_font.cpp -rwxrwxr-x root/root 6131664 2023-08-07 05:45 tools/shaders_compiler/linux/glslangValidator -rwxrwxr-x root/root 6498904 2023-08-07 05:45 tools/shaders_compiler/macos/glslangValidator -rw-rw-r-- root/root 7315682 2023-08-07 05:45 3party/opening_hours/opening_hours_integration_tests/opening-count.lst -rw-rw-r-- root/root 8384030 2023-08-07 05:45 data/kml_test_data/test.kmz -rw-rw-r-- root/root 8757104 2023-08-07 05:45 data/WorldCoasts.mwm -rw-rw-r-- root/root 20,461,104 2023-08-07 05:45 tools/shaders_compiler/linux/mali_compiler_es3/openglessl/libMali-Gxx_r3p0-00rel0.so -rw-rw-r-- root/root 43,812,962 2023-08-07 05:45 data/World.mwm -rw-rw-r-- root/root 50,994,390 2023-08-07 05:45 data/dictionary.slf and then, as I feared $ git log --format='%cs %s' -- data/World.mwm 2023-07-13 [planet] New data from 230710. 2023-06-05 [planet] New data from 230602. 2023-05-08 [planet] New data from 230503. 2023-04-02 [planet] New data from 230329. 2023-03-01 [planet] New data from 230227. 2023-02-13 [planet] New data from 230210. 2023-01-24 [planet] New data from 230121.

kzrdude 3y ago

Does it have live traffic information? It looks quite polished but for an offline feature set OsmAnd~ has a lot more and is more established. OsmAnd does not (to my knowledge) have any live traffic info.

benoliver999 3y ago
No
OGWhales 3y ago
Unfortunately it does not have live traffic data like the app it is forked from, maps.me. Hopefully they add it, but there aren’t many good open traffic projects that exist, so they’d need to rely on crowd sourced data like Magic Earth is doing and I’m not sure how well that would work.
hk__2 3y ago
> It looks quite polished but for an offline feature set OsmAnd~ has a lot more and is more established OrganicMaps is a fork of Maps.me, which is very well known among the general public: 55k ratings on the Apple Store and 50M downloads on the Play Store for Maps.me vs. 1.8k and 10M for OsmAnd. Unfortunately a lot of people who use Maps.me/OrganicMaps don’t know that maps come from OSM, whereas with OsmAnd it’s clear right from the name.
- kzrdude 3y ago
  OsmAnd feels like an app for a map nerd, and I like it.
- matkoniecz 3y ago
  > Unfortunately a lot of people who use Maps.me/OrganicMaps don’t know that maps come from OSM OM has quite clear attribution, as required by ODBL license of OpenStreetMap data.
JeremyNT 3y ago
Compared to OsmAnd, Organic Maps is quite basic. The advantage is that it does have a very streamlined UI, so if you just want to get to a map and navigate it's far more straightforward. You really need to spend some time to understand the "quirks" of how to use OsmAnd (a downside of its long feature list).

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executesorder66 3y ago

I tend to agree with admaiora. And Organic Maps is a cool project. However I shared this post because it's the first OSM based map/routing project I've seen that actually has traffic data. I thought that was interesting. It is disappointing that the traffic info isn't open as well.

striking 3y ago

I ended up in the winding mountain roads near Saratoga without cell service, and though I had SF downloaded on Google Maps, I hadn't added the rest of the Bay. We decided we wanted to change our destination and realized we wouldn't have any further navigation only after canceling our current trip. But then I remembered I had Organic Maps tucked away, ready to go, with a highly detailed map of California for offline navigation use. Big thanks to Organic Maps for making me seem prepared and allowing me to recover gracefully from what could otherwise have been a somewhat annoying situation.

Zak 3y ago
I always keep Organic Maps in reserve. Waze and Google Maps provide better navigation when they're working, but I've had them fail in places lacking mobile data even when I had offline maps downloaded to Google Maps. I've never seen Organic Maps fail.
- hedora 3y ago
  Here We Go’s (previously, Nokia Maps) offline support is as good as Organic Maps, and the routing is as good as Google/Apple. It runs on iOS and Android. CarPlay support is good. Haven’t tried android’s car ui. I use it on my iPhone, but I’m rooting for OSM, long term. I’d happily pay a bit to a company that put the money towards an open source, privacy preserving OSM app, and towards improving the upstream map data.
  - richiebful1 3y ago
    How is address lookup? That's the only bad thing about OSM based apps vs Google Maps in my region (rural Kentucky)
    - troyvit 3y ago
      It worked well when I used it. It was bought by Microsoft and is suffering the usual degradation that comes with that, but it's still a good app.

mdaniel 3y ago

> Receiving objects: 100% (556180/556180), 5.88 GiB | 3.33 MiB/s, done. What the holy hell is going on with that repo? do they `git add local.osm.dump` or something? I mean, I was kidding but evidently not that crazy far off: https://github.com/organicmaps/organicmaps/blob/master/data/World.mwm https://github.com/organicmaps/organicmaps/blob/master/data/... I was expecting to find `git add release/organicmaps-1.0.apk` which is a super common "I've never used git before" antipattern --- since I already paid the price, some `git archive HEAD | tar -tvf - | sort -k3 -n` coughed up -rw-rw-r-- root/root 1854526 2023-08-07 05:45 android/src/fdroid/play/listings/en-US/graphics/phone-screenshots/1.jpg -rw-rw-r-- root/root 1863096 2023-08-07 05:45 tools/shaders_compiler/linux/mali_compiler_es3/openglessl/libMali-T600_r11p0-00rel0.so -rw-rw-r-- root/root 2583640 2023-08-07 05:45 tools/shaders_compiler/linux/mali_compiler_es3/openglessl/libMali-T600_r12p0-00rel0.so -rw-rw-r-- root/root 3017640 2023-08-07 05:45 tools/shaders_compiler/linux/mali_compiler_es3/openglessl/libMali-T600_r13p0-00rel0.so -rw-rw-r-- root/root 3155104 2023-08-07 05:45 data/06_code2000.ttf -rw-rw-r-- root/root 3451900 2023-08-07 05:45 data/02_droidsans-fallback.ttf -rw-rw-r-- root/root 3676527 2023-08-07 05:45 data/packed_polygons.bin -rw-rw-r-- root/root 4696613 2023-08-07 05:45 software_renderer/default_font.cpp -rwxrwxr-x root/root 6131664 2023-08-07 05:45 tools/shaders_compiler/linux/glslangValidator -rwxrwxr-x root/root 6498904 2023-08-07 05:45 tools/shaders_compiler/macos/glslangValidator -rw-rw-r-- root/root 7315682 2023-08-07 05:45 3party/opening_hours/opening_hours_integration_tests/opening-count.lst -rw-rw-r-- root/root 8384030 2023-08-07 05:45 data/kml_test_data/test.kmz -rw-rw-r-- root/root 8757104 2023-08-07 05:45 data/WorldCoasts.mwm -rw-rw-r-- root/root 20,461,104 2023-08-07 05:45 tools/shaders_compiler/linux/mali_compiler_es3/openglessl/libMali-Gxx_r3p0-00rel0.so -rw-rw-r-- root/root 43,812,962 2023-08-07 05:45 data/World.mwm -rw-rw-r-- root/root 50,994,390 2023-08-07 05:45 data/dictionary.slf and then, as I feared $ git log --format='%cs %s' -- data/World.mwm 2023-07-13 [planet] New data from 230710. 2023-06-05 [planet] New data from 230602. 2023-05-08 [planet] New data from 230503. 2023-04-02 [planet] New data from 230329. 2023-03-01 [planet] New data from 230227. 2023-02-13 [planet] New data from 230210. 2023-01-24 [planet] New data from 230121.