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Subscriber Only: A Technical Post Mortem

43 points by vmsp 3y ago

EspressoGPT 3y ago
Is anyone using Jekyll these days?
- lionkor 3y ago
  Yes, me, for my blog at blog.kortlepel.com :) i found it easy to set up and pleasant to use
- bayindirh 3y ago
  I used it until I moved to Mataroa. Will use if I still had time.
- Brajeshwar 3y ago
  Jekyll is my default to quickly throw out something. I also run my personal blog, https://brajeshwar.com https://brajeshwar.com with Jekyll.
- benoliver999 3y ago
  Been using it for years at https://www.bfoliver.com https://www.bfoliver.com Not really had a reason to switch.
- latexr 3y ago
  It’s used by GitHub Pages. https://docs.github.com/en/pages/setting-up-a-github-pages-site-with-jekyll https://docs.github.com/en/pages/setting-up-a-github-pages-s...
- Kuinox 3y ago
  I recently searched to do a blog and used Jekyll, what else would you use?
  - stilwelldotdev 3y ago
    I use SvelteKit + MDsveX
  - james-skemp 3y ago
    https://gohugo.io/ https://gohugo.io/ is what I've used. I find it easier in some ways then Jekyll, but both have advantages.
victorbjorklund 3y ago
This is pretty cool. But i guess the market is too small. Maybe if handled the payments and it has support for more than just jekyll.
Animats 3y ago
"First, there’s a Jekyll plugin that hooks into the site’s build step... Second, there’s an “agent” script that gets added to the post’s <head>..." And then there has to be a whole payment system to handle the subscriptions, which is apparently separate. This requires support and hand-holding to get it to work. It's nice to be able to host your own paid-subscription blog, but it's inherently complicated to get that to work. It's so much easier to sign up for some service that does the whole job. Especially just for a blog. This is also why most "federated" systems don't get traction. Per-user, it's so much more work than a centralized system.
- all2 3y ago
  There is a middle ground of self hosted solutions that get the job done with less hassle. For example, Ghost has payment systems integrations. I'd imagine there's a docker container ready to go for deployment.
RamblingCTO 3y ago
Three months is nothing and marketing and getting traction is hard.
- guideamigo 3y ago
  Exactly. I have been working on https://guideamigo.com https://guideamigo.com as a side-project and only in the last month, I'm seeing some traction.
KingOfCoders 3y ago
My wife had a startup (B2B) which in the beginning had no traction. It took some years until big companies could be sold too, that had said "go away" just two years earlier. She successfully sold her startup after some years. The last invoice she (she was Head of Sales) sent out was 10000x the amount of the first invoice. 3 months seems very short. But this is the reason why innovation fails in large companies. They start a project, after 12 months it only has sales of $100k, the company makes $1B, so the project makes no dent. The second year this happens the project gets killed. They forget they need to stick with innovative products for years to make it work, just like startups. This is part of the Overnight-Success-Fallacy.
- danpalmer 3y ago
  There's a lot of truth in this, but at the same time not every product/service/feature is going to make it, and it's much easier and cheaper to fail early rather than fail after many years. Also sometimes what might be a success in the hands of one person won't be in the hands of another due to their skills. Separating things that are going to fail and those that might make it is the whole problem, and it's not something to be underestimated.
  - bombcar 3y ago
    What’s sad is when things don’t fail, they just perform adequately and so get the ax. If it cost the company $500k to make $600k, that’s a decent small business, but for a large multinational that is a rounding error and the people may be redeployed in search of some C level’s bonus.
    - PedroBatista 3y ago
      There's also opportunity cost. When all that people were involved in making 100K, they could have been working hard to make the company 10 million. Both sides are not wrong, and thank God big companies operate this way otherwise small guys would never have any chance. It's already bad as it is.
- paulddraper 3y ago

43 points by vmsp 3y ago

EspressoGPT 3y ago

Is anyone using Jekyll these days?

lionkor 3y ago
Yes, me, for my blog at blog.kortlepel.com :) i found it easy to set up and pleasant to use
bayindirh 3y ago
I used it until I moved to Mataroa. Will use if I still had time.
Brajeshwar 3y ago
Jekyll is my default to quickly throw out something. I also run my personal blog, https://brajeshwar.com https://brajeshwar.com with Jekyll.
benoliver999 3y ago
Been using it for years at https://www.bfoliver.com https://www.bfoliver.com Not really had a reason to switch.
latexr 3y ago
It’s used by GitHub Pages. https://docs.github.com/en/pages/setting-up-a-github-pages-site-with-jekyll https://docs.github.com/en/pages/setting-up-a-github-pages-s...
Kuinox 3y ago
I recently searched to do a blog and used Jekyll, what else would you use?
- stilwelldotdev 3y ago
  I use SvelteKit + MDsveX
- james-skemp 3y ago
  https://gohugo.io/ https://gohugo.io/ is what I've used. I find it easier in some ways then Jekyll, but both have advantages.

victorbjorklund 3y ago

This is pretty cool. But i guess the market is too small. Maybe if handled the payments and it has support for more than just jekyll.

Animats 3y ago

"First, there’s a Jekyll plugin that hooks into the site’s build step... Second, there’s an “agent” script that gets added to the post’s <head>..." And then there has to be a whole payment system to handle the subscriptions, which is apparently separate. This requires support and hand-holding to get it to work. It's nice to be able to host your own paid-subscription blog, but it's inherently complicated to get that to work. It's so much easier to sign up for some service that does the whole job. Especially just for a blog. This is also why most "federated" systems don't get traction. Per-user, it's so much more work than a centralized system.

all2 3y ago
There is a middle ground of self hosted solutions that get the job done with less hassle. For example, Ghost has payment systems integrations. I'd imagine there's a docker container ready to go for deployment.

RamblingCTO 3y ago

Three months is nothing and marketing and getting traction is hard.

guideamigo 3y ago
Exactly. I have been working on https://guideamigo.com https://guideamigo.com as a side-project and only in the last month, I'm seeing some traction.

KingOfCoders 3y ago

My wife had a startup (B2B) which in the beginning had no traction. It took some years until big companies could be sold too, that had said "go away" just two years earlier. She successfully sold her startup after some years. The last invoice she (she was Head of Sales) sent out was 10000x the amount of the first invoice. 3 months seems very short. But this is the reason why innovation fails in large companies. They start a project, after 12 months it only has sales of $100k, the company makes $1B, so the project makes no dent. The second year this happens the project gets killed. They forget they need to stick with innovative products for years to make it work, just like startups. This is part of the Overnight-Success-Fallacy.

danpalmer 3y ago
There's a lot of truth in this, but at the same time not every product/service/feature is going to make it, and it's much easier and cheaper to fail early rather than fail after many years. Also sometimes what might be a success in the hands of one person won't be in the hands of another due to their skills. Separating things that are going to fail and those that might make it is the whole problem, and it's not something to be underestimated.
- bombcar 3y ago
  What’s sad is when things don’t fail, they just perform adequately and so get the ax. If it cost the company $500k to make $600k, that’s a decent small business, but for a large multinational that is a rounding error and the people may be redeployed in search of some C level’s bonus.
  - PedroBatista 3y ago
    There's also opportunity cost. When all that people were involved in making 100K, they could have been working hard to make the company 10 million. Both sides are not wrong, and thank God big companies operate this way otherwise small guys would never have any chance. It's already bad as it is.
paulddraper 3y ago