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Dear Commenters, Tempting as it may be, to read the headline and wade in to add you point of anecdata from the time you spent in London, and found it terrible/

Dear Commenters, Tempting as it may be, to read the headline and wade in to add you point of anecdata from the time you spent in London, and found it terrible/ wonderful, i really urge you to click the link. Spoiler: its about the release of 5 books by Evelyn Waugh, not about the pro's and cons of a city that you may love, or hate.

8bitsrule 3y ago
I've never been to London, nor will I, but I once sent my spouse off for a look-see and she came back with the usual Trafalgar and pigeon snaps, a can of Nukie, a copy of 'Viz' and a 'Parklife' CD. Close enough; add that to a deep familiarity with the London of Dickens and Sherlock, and I'd wager that it's no more Hell than any human anthill of its ilk.
dbbk 3y ago
That sounds less fun to talk about
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- frereubu 3y ago
  So write a blog post about how London is hell and post it here...
  - _fvh3 3y ago
    It's only hell if you don't have money
    - dbbk 3y ago
      Money doesn’t help in my experience
      - _fvh3 3y ago
        Haha now you got me curious
        jakeykakey 3y ago
        If you still have to pay off some kind of rent/mortage and work for a living, you're basically just an NPC-style window dressing for the well and truly rich sons of millionares and oligarchs that make up the London global elite. Barring some of the super-top-tier jobs, your salary will realistically cap out at maybe £100-150k as the absolute best of the best at which point you're technically really rich on paper but still not like "can actually afford to buy a really nice house and have two kids in a really nice area" rich. For all the talk about "bigger salaries" and "career progression", I'm genuinely not convinced that those who join the London rat race are actually truly better off than someone in Leeds. Sure you can hit upwards of 80k after like five, but that completely ignores that you need to be earning like £60k to have a half-decent standard of living to begin with.
        _fvh3 3y ago
        Makes you wonder how people manage to bring up kids in London
- musicale 3y ago
  This summary has helpfully saved time that I might otherwise have wasted reading the apparently tedious (though well-regarded) works of Evelyn Waugh. > From that moment,’ Auberon Waugh recalled, ‘I never treated anything he had to say on faith or morals very seriously.’ If the person telling you smoking is unhealthy is a smoker, then it's obviously a lie and you should enjoy the healthy smoking habit whenever possible. But I look forward to HN comments about how and why London is or is not hell. Those are likely to be both interesting and informative. ;-)
jnsaff2 3y ago
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- youngNed 3y ago
  It was a link to the london review of books. You felt scammed by a link pertaining to be about London, that was in fact a review of books? I'm gonna be honest i'm not sure what to say to you here.
- bemusedthrow75 3y ago
  Hipsterism?! I don't really know where to begin.
- gilleain 3y ago
  Yes it is terrible to be 'scammed by diarrhea of mental hipsterism' - isn't it just so _tiresome_ and simply _too much_.
  - bemusedthrow75 3y ago
    "I do not approve of anything that tampers with natural ignorance. Ignorance is like a delicate exotic fruit; touch it and the bloom is gone."
- arp242 3y ago
  People write these headlines for the readers of their publications, not random link aggregators such as HN, and they're not intended to be an analytical and accurate summary of the article content. Sometimes people have some fun with the headlines – that's not "clickbait". Your caustic contemptuous attitude is nonsensical, humourless, and exactly the sort of thing that just sucks the fun out of HN at times.
  - dogleash 3y ago
    wiki: >Clickbait is a text or a thumbnail link that is designed to attract attention and to entice users to follow that link and read, view, or listen to the linked piece of online content, being typically deceptive, sensationalized, or otherwise misleading. Every internet writer I've talked to, or heard speak publicly, had their own rationalization that amounts to admitting to the desire to entice with headlines that don't convey an idea of what's on the other side of the link, but disclaim malice sufficient enough to earn the label "clickbait". >Sometimes people have some fun with the headlines – that's not "clickbait". *groan*
wink 3y ago
I clicked the link and was confused about the list of 5 books at the top (not even sure if it was books or what it meant), that's why I looked at the comments first. :P
bemusedthrow75 3y ago
I am reminded of that bit in Lord Edgware Dies where Lady Edgware mishears something about "The Judgement of Paris" and starts confidently bleating about fashion, New York and London.

8bitsrule 3y ago

I've never been to London, nor will I, but I once sent my spouse off for a look-see and she came back with the usual Trafalgar and pigeon snaps, a can of Nukie, a copy of 'Viz' and a 'Parklife' CD. Close enough; add that to a deep familiarity with the London of Dickens and Sherlock, and I'd wager that it's no more Hell than any human anthill of its ilk.

dbbk 3y ago

That sounds less fun to talk about

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frereubu 3y ago
So write a blog post about how London is hell and post it here...
- _fvh3 3y ago
  It's only hell if you don't have money
  - dbbk 3y ago
    Money doesn’t help in my experience
    - _fvh3 3y ago
      Haha now you got me curious
      - jakeykakey 3y ago
        If you still have to pay off some kind of rent/mortage and work for a living, you're basically just an NPC-style window dressing for the well and truly rich sons of millionares and oligarchs that make up the London global elite. Barring some of the super-top-tier jobs, your salary will realistically cap out at maybe £100-150k as the absolute best of the best at which point you're technically really rich on paper but still not like "can actually afford to buy a really nice house and have two kids in a really nice area" rich. For all the talk about "bigger salaries" and "career progression", I'm genuinely not convinced that those who join the London rat race are actually truly better off than someone in Leeds. Sure you can hit upwards of 80k after like five, but that completely ignores that you need to be earning like £60k to have a half-decent standard of living to begin with.
        _fvh3 3y ago
        Makes you wonder how people manage to bring up kids in London
musicale 3y ago
This summary has helpfully saved time that I might otherwise have wasted reading the apparently tedious (though well-regarded) works of Evelyn Waugh. > From that moment,’ Auberon Waugh recalled, ‘I never treated anything he had to say on faith or morals very seriously.’ If the person telling you smoking is unhealthy is a smoker, then it's obviously a lie and you should enjoy the healthy smoking habit whenever possible. But I look forward to HN comments about how and why London is or is not hell. Those are likely to be both interesting and informative. ;-)

jnsaff2 3y ago

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youngNed 3y ago
It was a link to the london review of books. You felt scammed by a link pertaining to be about London, that was in fact a review of books? I'm gonna be honest i'm not sure what to say to you here.
bemusedthrow75 3y ago
Hipsterism?! I don't really know where to begin.
gilleain 3y ago
Yes it is terrible to be 'scammed by diarrhea of mental hipsterism' - isn't it just so _tiresome_ and simply _too much_.
- bemusedthrow75 3y ago
  "I do not approve of anything that tampers with natural ignorance. Ignorance is like a delicate exotic fruit; touch it and the bloom is gone."
arp242 3y ago
People write these headlines for the readers of their publications, not random link aggregators such as HN, and they're not intended to be an analytical and accurate summary of the article content. Sometimes people have some fun with the headlines – that's not "clickbait". Your caustic contemptuous attitude is nonsensical, humourless, and exactly the sort of thing that just sucks the fun out of HN at times.
- dogleash 3y ago
  wiki: >Clickbait is a text or a thumbnail link that is designed to attract attention and to entice users to follow that link and read, view, or listen to the linked piece of online content, being typically deceptive, sensationalized, or otherwise misleading. Every internet writer I've talked to, or heard speak publicly, had their own rationalization that amounts to admitting to the desire to entice with headlines that don't convey an idea of what's on the other side of the link, but disclaim malice sufficient enough to earn the label "clickbait". >Sometimes people have some fun with the headlines – that's not "clickbait". *groan*

wink 3y ago

I clicked the link and was confused about the list of 5 books at the top (not even sure if it was books or what it meant), that's why I looked at the comments first. :P

bemusedthrow75 3y ago

I am reminded of that bit in Lord Edgware Dies where Lady Edgware mishears something about "The Judgement of Paris" and starts confidently bleating about fashion, New York and London.