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Yes. That extends to motorcycles which, in comparison to all cars, do virtually zero damage to roads. Getting everyone out of cars and onto reasonable motorcy
by sandworm101 3y ago
Yes. That extends to motorcycles which, in comparison to all cars, do virtually zero damage to roads. Getting everyone out of cars and onto reasonable motorcycles, even sportbikes, would likely do more for the environment than the current plan of everyone driving electric tanks.
- ckdarby 3y agoExcept the additional cost via health care either publicly or private via insurance premiums. Two wheel motorcycles today as they stand should be outlawed.
- sandworm101 3y agoAnd so should bicycles too. The per-mile injury rate, the stat used when comparing a given journey, for bicycles is several times higher than that of motorcycles. And skateboards... they are per-mile death traps. Rollerblades are likely more dangerous per-mile than driving drunk while smoking. If you have to cover a given distance, the safest is not always the slowest. Often the faster means limits risk exposure and come out safer despite the increases in energy and perceived danger.
- sagarm 3y agoBicycles and motorcycles aren't dangerous: cars are.
- sandworm101 3y agoBikes are pretty bad. Basically everyone who has ever learned to ride a bike will at some point be injured, and not by cars but by user errors. They cannot be made safe. When you fall it will hurt. Ive seen horrible stuff from people riding bikes through woods. Speed+trees is dangerous.
- qiqitori 3y agoI injured my ACL by riding a bicycle over a slippery manhole cover, no car involved. ;)
- mjhay 3y agoThe health benefits of cycling outweigh the danger by many times. It's nonsense to only look at the costs of crashes. Besides, it's the cars that are dangerous, not the bikes (in addition to causing pollution, needing more infrastructure, etc).
- sandworm101 3y agoThe health benifits can be gotten from a stationary bike at the gym. There is a reason we have helmet laws for bikes on the street.
- 8note 3y agoThe skateboarding and roller blade trips are quite short though, no? Injuries per minute or per hour seems like a more apt unit to compare
- duskwuff 3y agoIndeed. By the "injuries per mile" metric, the Apollo spacecraft were probably one of the safest modes of travel ever devised, yet I don't see anyone championing space capsules as a safer substitute for cars. :)
- M95D 3y agoDid you include Apollo 1? It killed 3 without even getting off the ground.
- Timshel 3y agoLet's start by outlawing the vehicules that kill others before going after bikes ... Weight regulation is a start at least.
- duskwuff 3y agoMotorcycles are shockingly fuel-inefficient. Some "touring" models get as little as 30 mpg, and few full-size motorcycles get above 60 mpg. While that isn't terrible, it's also not substantially better than a small car, and with much worse cargo capacity and crash survivability.
- AussieWog93 3y agoI don't have the specific numbers, but I remember putting like 5L of petrol in the tank and riding for a full day when I was in Vietnam. That'd get you maybe 100km in a car.
- sandworm101 3y agoIt is all about speed. Motorcycles are aerodynamic pigs. At low speeds they are very efficient, but at highway speeds they are horrible. Bikes are also not generally tuned for efficiency but horsepower. Find a modern california-spec bike witha modern engine like honda's VFR series. Even being much heavier, they use about 50% of the gas compared to the likes of the R1/6 which are tuned for horsepower.
- fho 3y agoIt's crazy that basically no "fast Velomobile" is in the market. Something shaped like a velomobile (goes 100 km/h downhill by gravity alone), but some what bigger, with a motor and more safety features.
- 93po 3y agohttps://aptera.us/ https://aptera.us/ There have been and continue to be efforts to get something like this to market. There are a lot of hurdles.
- ptman 3y agoWhere are the tens of alternatives to https://www.podbike.com/ https://www.podbike.com/ . There should be lots of competition in this area
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