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Sheesh. It's open source, has a free version, and then a premium version so the bootstrapped, not-VC backed, creators avoid starving themselves and their famili

Sheesh. It's open source, has a free version, and then a premium version so the bootstrapped, not-VC backed, creators avoid starving themselves and their families while working on the tool...

reactordev 3y ago
Sadly, this is why this space has laggard for so long. Devs don’t want to pay for tooling but expect others to pay for their product.
- Xymist 3y ago
  There is an important differentiator, though. I'm happy to pay _once_ for tooling as a product, and potentially for subsequent major versions. I am not, however, willing to be a source of MRR.
  - gabereiser 3y ago
    I generally agree with this. There’s only one or two tools I’ll begrudgingly subscribe to with this model. I would be way more inclined to use the tools if it were a single purchase and I’ll upgrade when I feel like it. I’m looking at you JetBrains and Adobe…
    - alex23478 3y ago
      JetBrains offer perpetual fallback licenses together with their yearly subscriptions: https://sales.jetbrains.com/hc/en-gb/articles/207240845-What-is-a-perpetual-fallback-license- https://sales.jetbrains.com/hc/en-gb/articles/207240845-What...
      - gabereiser 3y ago
        Then nag you and auto update you to the latest version without a perpetual license.
rathboma 3y ago
Hi! I'm the bootstrapped, non VC backed creator of Beekeeper Studio. My open source version is good, probably too good, lol. Thanks for the mention!
- mkl 3y ago
  Please make your screenshot carousel stop automatically rotating after it is interacted with; it's really hard to take in the details of the screenshots.
  - rathboma 3y ago
    Good idea, I'll do that, thanks!
- spiderice 3y ago
  > probably too good, lol Lol, this is too true. I use Beekeeper Studio every day. Every once in a while I think to myself, "I should see if the full version is worth paying for yet". Then I check out the features and, while they look great, the free version has absolutely everything I need. Thanks for such a great product. I'll stop freeloading eventually!
rapind 3y ago
The pricing looks like SaaS only. I'm happy to pay a one-time fee for software (even when it doesn't include future versions), but not a subscription, unless of course there is a common sense benefit to a subscription (like paying for additional support on top of the fixed price). Anyways, once taking the time to re-read the pricing screen subtleties it is sort of a one-time fee (billed as one year of subscription to gain indefinite use), so kudos to the developer, but I have to say it's really non-obvious to me at least. Also the availability of a community edition is great, but again non-obvious.
- kshahkshah 3y ago
  That's good feedback for the developer for sure.

Sheesh. It's open source, has a free version, and then a premium version so the bootstrapped, not-VC backed, creators avoid starving themselves and their families while working on the tool...

reactordev 3y ago

Sadly, this is why this space has laggard for so long. Devs don’t want to pay for tooling but expect others to pay for their product.

Xymist 3y ago
There is an important differentiator, though. I'm happy to pay _once_ for tooling as a product, and potentially for subsequent major versions. I am not, however, willing to be a source of MRR.
- gabereiser 3y ago
  I generally agree with this. There’s only one or two tools I’ll begrudgingly subscribe to with this model. I would be way more inclined to use the tools if it were a single purchase and I’ll upgrade when I feel like it. I’m looking at you JetBrains and Adobe…
  - alex23478 3y ago
    JetBrains offer perpetual fallback licenses together with their yearly subscriptions: https://sales.jetbrains.com/hc/en-gb/articles/207240845-What-is-a-perpetual-fallback-license- https://sales.jetbrains.com/hc/en-gb/articles/207240845-What...
    - gabereiser 3y ago
      Then nag you and auto update you to the latest version without a perpetual license.

rathboma 3y ago

Hi! I'm the bootstrapped, non VC backed creator of Beekeeper Studio. My open source version is good, probably too good, lol. Thanks for the mention!

mkl 3y ago
Please make your screenshot carousel stop automatically rotating after it is interacted with; it's really hard to take in the details of the screenshots.
- rathboma 3y ago
  Good idea, I'll do that, thanks!
spiderice 3y ago
> probably too good, lol Lol, this is too true. I use Beekeeper Studio every day. Every once in a while I think to myself, "I should see if the full version is worth paying for yet". Then I check out the features and, while they look great, the free version has absolutely everything I need. Thanks for such a great product. I'll stop freeloading eventually!

rapind 3y ago

The pricing looks like SaaS only. I'm happy to pay a one-time fee for software (even when it doesn't include future versions), but not a subscription, unless of course there is a common sense benefit to a subscription (like paying for additional support on top of the fixed price). Anyways, once taking the time to re-read the pricing screen subtleties it is sort of a one-time fee (billed as one year of subscription to gain indefinite use), so kudos to the developer, but I have to say it's really non-obvious to me at least. Also the availability of a community edition is great, but again non-obvious.

kshahkshah 3y ago
That's good feedback for the developer for sure.