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Check out Beekeeper Studio

by kshahkshah 3y ago

bbkane 3y ago
Love Beekeeper Studio!
rapind 3y ago
A monthly fee? No thanks.
- kshahkshah 3y ago
  Sheesh. It's open source, has a free version, and then a premium version so the bootstrapped, not-VC backed, creators avoid starving themselves and their families while working on the tool...
  - reactordev 3y ago
    Sadly, this is why this space has laggard for so long. Devs don’t want to pay for tooling but expect others to pay for their product.
    - Xymist 3y ago
      There is an important differentiator, though. I'm happy to pay _once_ for tooling as a product, and potentially for subsequent major versions. I am not, however, willing to be a source of MRR.
      - gabereiser 3y ago
        I generally agree with this. There’s only one or two tools I’ll begrudgingly subscribe to with this model. I would be way more inclined to use the tools if it were a single purchase and I’ll upgrade when I feel like it. I’m looking at you JetBrains and Adobe…
        alex23478 3y ago
        JetBrains offer perpetual fallback licenses together with their yearly subscriptions: https://sales.jetbrains.com/hc/en-gb/articles/207240845-What-is-a-perpetual-fallback-license- https://sales.jetbrains.com/hc/en-gb/articles/207240845-What...
        gabereiser 3y ago
        Then nag you and auto update you to the latest version without a perpetual license.
  - rathboma 3y ago
    Hi! I'm the bootstrapped, non VC backed creator of Beekeeper Studio. My open source version is good, probably too good, lol. Thanks for the mention!
    - mkl 3y ago
      Please make your screenshot carousel stop automatically rotating after it is interacted with; it's really hard to take in the details of the screenshots.
      - rathboma 3y ago
        Good idea, I'll do that, thanks!
    - spiderice 3y ago
      > probably too good, lol Lol, this is too true. I use Beekeeper Studio every day. Every once in a while I think to myself, "I should see if the full version is worth paying for yet". Then I check out the features and, while they look great, the free version has absolutely everything I need. Thanks for such a great product. I'll stop freeloading eventually!
  - rapind 3y ago
    The pricing looks like SaaS only. I'm happy to pay a one-time fee for software (even when it doesn't include future versions), but not a subscription, unless of course there is a common sense benefit to a subscription (like paying for additional support on top of the fixed price). Anyways, once taking the time to re-read the pricing screen subtleties it is sort of a one-time fee (billed as one year of subscription to gain indefinite use), so kudos to the developer, but I have to say it's really non-obvious to me at least. Also the availability of a community edition is great, but again non-obvious.
    - kshahkshah 3y ago
      That's good feedback for the developer for sure.
- fragmede 3y ago
  The stereotype of software devs being the absolute cheapest bastards, despite being well paid, lives on. These people put time and effort into building a thing, and giving them money for it is reprehensible?
  - VincentEvans 3y ago
    I’m not the people you are responding to, but I’ll share my take as a dev who buys some tools and turns my nose at the others. The difference is - whether it’s a purchase or a subscription. I’ll happily buy a tool, and happily will buy upgrades every so often. I will absolutely resist paying for subscriptions unless you are delivering some sort of continuous service and I won’t be fooled by gimmicky cloud integrations just to make that claim.
    - thiht 3y ago
      Same for me, I avoid subscriptions as much as possible. I’m ok with the model of TablePlus however: pay for a license, it’s valid for a year, and at the end of the year you keep the current version available forever but no more updates. And you get a discount if you decide to renew your license
      - VincentEvans 3y ago
        Agreed, a subscription model where you end up “owning” a particular version after reaching some milestone is ok with me. Sort of like a payment plan. I’ve been a happy subscriber to Jetbrains Toolbox that has a similar model for many years now, and have interrupted and later resumed my subscription while being able to use the software in between. 100% against a subscription where you no longer able to use the software the moment you cancel your subscription after paying for years. Looking at you Adobe.
codeptualize 3y ago
Will try! It looks quite similar to table plus, any killer features I’m overlooking?

Check out Beekeeper Studio

bbkane 3y ago

Love Beekeeper Studio!

rapind 3y ago

A monthly fee? No thanks.

kshahkshah 3y ago
Sheesh. It's open source, has a free version, and then a premium version so the bootstrapped, not-VC backed, creators avoid starving themselves and their families while working on the tool...
- reactordev 3y ago
  Sadly, this is why this space has laggard for so long. Devs don’t want to pay for tooling but expect others to pay for their product.
  - Xymist 3y ago
    There is an important differentiator, though. I'm happy to pay _once_ for tooling as a product, and potentially for subsequent major versions. I am not, however, willing to be a source of MRR.
    - gabereiser 3y ago
      I generally agree with this. There’s only one or two tools I’ll begrudgingly subscribe to with this model. I would be way more inclined to use the tools if it were a single purchase and I’ll upgrade when I feel like it. I’m looking at you JetBrains and Adobe…
      - alex23478 3y ago
        JetBrains offer perpetual fallback licenses together with their yearly subscriptions: https://sales.jetbrains.com/hc/en-gb/articles/207240845-What-is-a-perpetual-fallback-license- https://sales.jetbrains.com/hc/en-gb/articles/207240845-What...
        gabereiser 3y ago
        Then nag you and auto update you to the latest version without a perpetual license.
- rathboma 3y ago
  Hi! I'm the bootstrapped, non VC backed creator of Beekeeper Studio. My open source version is good, probably too good, lol. Thanks for the mention!
  - mkl 3y ago
    Please make your screenshot carousel stop automatically rotating after it is interacted with; it's really hard to take in the details of the screenshots.
    - rathboma 3y ago
      Good idea, I'll do that, thanks!
  - spiderice 3y ago
    > probably too good, lol Lol, this is too true. I use Beekeeper Studio every day. Every once in a while I think to myself, "I should see if the full version is worth paying for yet". Then I check out the features and, while they look great, the free version has absolutely everything I need. Thanks for such a great product. I'll stop freeloading eventually!
- rapind 3y ago
  The pricing looks like SaaS only. I'm happy to pay a one-time fee for software (even when it doesn't include future versions), but not a subscription, unless of course there is a common sense benefit to a subscription (like paying for additional support on top of the fixed price). Anyways, once taking the time to re-read the pricing screen subtleties it is sort of a one-time fee (billed as one year of subscription to gain indefinite use), so kudos to the developer, but I have to say it's really non-obvious to me at least. Also the availability of a community edition is great, but again non-obvious.
  - kshahkshah 3y ago
    That's good feedback for the developer for sure.
fragmede 3y ago
The stereotype of software devs being the absolute cheapest bastards, despite being well paid, lives on. These people put time and effort into building a thing, and giving them money for it is reprehensible?
- VincentEvans 3y ago
  I’m not the people you are responding to, but I’ll share my take as a dev who buys some tools and turns my nose at the others. The difference is - whether it’s a purchase or a subscription. I’ll happily buy a tool, and happily will buy upgrades every so often. I will absolutely resist paying for subscriptions unless you are delivering some sort of continuous service and I won’t be fooled by gimmicky cloud integrations just to make that claim.
  - thiht 3y ago
    Same for me, I avoid subscriptions as much as possible. I’m ok with the model of TablePlus however: pay for a license, it’s valid for a year, and at the end of the year you keep the current version available forever but no more updates. And you get a discount if you decide to renew your license
    - VincentEvans 3y ago
      Agreed, a subscription model where you end up “owning” a particular version after reaching some milestone is ok with me. Sort of like a payment plan. I’ve been a happy subscriber to Jetbrains Toolbox that has a similar model for many years now, and have interrupted and later resumed my subscription while being able to use the software in between. 100% against a subscription where you no longer able to use the software the moment you cancel your subscription after paying for years. Looking at you Adobe.

codeptualize 3y ago

Will try! It looks quite similar to table plus, any killer features I’m overlooking?