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I have 6 parrots. They require hours of care everyday. The fundamental problem is the workday is too long, and not that I made a choice to add 6 parrots to my l

I have 6 parrots. They require hours of care everyday. The fundamental problem is the workday is too long, and not that I made a choice to add 6 parrots to my life.

kelseyfrog 3y ago
I'm a VP managing six projects. They require hours of care each day. The fundamental problem is that the workday is too short, and not that I made a choice to add six projects to my life.
Wowfunhappy 3y ago
...I really do appreciate this take, even if I can't completely get behind it (kids aren't parrots). But couldn't you make the same argument about commuting?
skeeter2020 3y ago
...and as an employer I'm going to look for the person who doesn't elevate parrot care to the level that you have. We're both right.
- unsupp0rted 3y ago
  By preferring someone else, you are treading on my fundamental human right to have to care for the parrots I chose to have. At minimum you should make up plausible-sounding fake reasons for why you prioritize parrotless applicants over me.
- sanderjd 3y ago
  But there is a reason that we have some amount of legal structure (and should have a lot more IMO) to avoid employment discrimination against people who have children, but not people who have lots of parrots: Unlike pet parrots, children are very important to society, and societies that fail to incentive having children end up with fewer children, and that's bad.
  - Wowfunhappy 3y ago
    > and societies that fail to incentive having children end up with fewer children, and that's bad. I mean, citation needed. I know that e.g. Japan is having issues with an aging population but they could probably fix that with more immigration if they wanted to. The US certainly could.
    - sanderjd 3y ago
      There is lots of data on this. Immigration is also good, we should have a lot more of that too IMO.
ITB 3y ago
I love this. At it’s core there’s an element of communism in people wanting the benefits that today accrue to the hardest workers, while being allowed to allocate their own time according to their needs.
- sanderjd 3y ago
  Not communism, but socialism, and yes, obviously. That's what governments are for, to balance the needs and desires of society against the needs and desires of individuals. Every government, including those thought to be very capitalist like the US, is constantly striking and re-striking this balance. This is how a person like Mitt Romney can be both a ruthless private equity capitalist and also an advocate for natalist policies. There is no capitalism vs. socialism binary. Both things are good for a society in different ways for different things at different times.

I have 6 parrots. They require hours of care everyday. The fundamental problem is the workday is too long, and not that I made a choice to add 6 parrots to my life.

kelseyfrog 3y ago

I'm a VP managing six projects. They require hours of care each day. The fundamental problem is that the workday is too short, and not that I made a choice to add six projects to my life.

Wowfunhappy 3y ago

...I really do appreciate this take, even if I can't completely get behind it (kids aren't parrots). But couldn't you make the same argument about commuting?

skeeter2020 3y ago

...and as an employer I'm going to look for the person who doesn't elevate parrot care to the level that you have. We're both right.

unsupp0rted 3y ago
By preferring someone else, you are treading on my fundamental human right to have to care for the parrots I chose to have. At minimum you should make up plausible-sounding fake reasons for why you prioritize parrotless applicants over me.
sanderjd 3y ago
But there is a reason that we have some amount of legal structure (and should have a lot more IMO) to avoid employment discrimination against people who have children, but not people who have lots of parrots: Unlike pet parrots, children are very important to society, and societies that fail to incentive having children end up with fewer children, and that's bad.
- Wowfunhappy 3y ago
  > and societies that fail to incentive having children end up with fewer children, and that's bad. I mean, citation needed. I know that e.g. Japan is having issues with an aging population but they could probably fix that with more immigration if they wanted to. The US certainly could.
  - sanderjd 3y ago
    There is lots of data on this. Immigration is also good, we should have a lot more of that too IMO.

ITB 3y ago

I love this. At it’s core there’s an element of communism in people wanting the benefits that today accrue to the hardest workers, while being allowed to allocate their own time according to their needs.

sanderjd 3y ago
Not communism, but socialism, and yes, obviously. That's what governments are for, to balance the needs and desires of society against the needs and desires of individuals. Every government, including those thought to be very capitalist like the US, is constantly striking and re-striking this balance. This is how a person like Mitt Romney can be both a ruthless private equity capitalist and also an advocate for natalist policies. There is no capitalism vs. socialism binary. Both things are good for a society in different ways for different things at different times.