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> we no longer need women Most of humanity is female. Women are the majority. If we’re getting rid of one of the sexes you’d better hope not everyone gets to v

> we no longer need women Most of humanity is female. Women are the majority. If we’re getting rid of one of the sexes you’d better hope not everyone gets to vote. Seriously, the idea that women are only useful to society as baby incubators is the most jaw-droppingly sexist thing I’ve seen on this site in years.

lettergram 3y ago
> Seriously, the idea that women are only useful to society as baby incubators is the most jaw-droppingly sexist thing I’ve seen on this site in years. I never said anything close to this.
- ksenzee 3y ago
  “Once this is commercialized we no longer need women” is a pretty clear statement that the only reason “we” need women is because we don’t have any other way to incubate babies. It’s what you said, whether or not it’s what you meant.
  - lettergram 3y ago
    We no longer "need" men either, we can clone with embryos. We don't "need" either, objectively -- In the sense of reproduction (which is what we were discussing). Further, it doesn't mean I think we should create an authoritarian dictatorship where dictators control cloned slaves. You know, something I also mentioned. I'm stating alternatives that can occur and what others will think.
- ravenstine 3y ago
  Doesn't matter. Those who already disagree with you will pretend to not understand speaking in generalities because it's convenient for them. Obviously you said what you said in the context of reproduction.
matheusmoreira 3y ago
And yet I've witnessed feminists oppose effective male contraception simply because it would empower men and depower women. What do you think their opinions on artificial wombs are going to be?
imtringued 3y ago
Wikipedia says 101 males to 100 females.
- ksenzee 3y ago
  Interesting, thanks for pointing that out. I didn’t realize the Chinese one-child policy’s effects had pushed things quite that far yet. Data here for the curious: https://ourworldindata.org/gender-ratio#how-does-the-sex-ratio-at-birth-vary-across-the-world https://ourworldindata.org/gender-ratio#how-does-the-sex-rat... https://ourworldindata.org/gender-ratio#how-many-women-are-missing https://ourworldindata.org/gender-ratio#how-many-women-are-m...

lettergram 3y ago

> Seriously, the idea that women are only useful to society as baby incubators is the most jaw-droppingly sexist thing I’ve seen on this site in years. I never said anything close to this.

ksenzee 3y ago
“Once this is commercialized we no longer need women” is a pretty clear statement that the only reason “we” need women is because we don’t have any other way to incubate babies. It’s what you said, whether or not it’s what you meant.
- lettergram 3y ago
  We no longer "need" men either, we can clone with embryos. We don't "need" either, objectively -- In the sense of reproduction (which is what we were discussing). Further, it doesn't mean I think we should create an authoritarian dictatorship where dictators control cloned slaves. You know, something I also mentioned. I'm stating alternatives that can occur and what others will think.
ravenstine 3y ago
Doesn't matter. Those who already disagree with you will pretend to not understand speaking in generalities because it's convenient for them. Obviously you said what you said in the context of reproduction.

matheusmoreira 3y ago

And yet I've witnessed feminists oppose effective male contraception simply because it would empower men and depower women. What do you think their opinions on artificial wombs are going to be?

imtringued 3y ago

Wikipedia says 101 males to 100 females.

ksenzee 3y ago
Interesting, thanks for pointing that out. I didn’t realize the Chinese one-child policy’s effects had pushed things quite that far yet. Data here for the curious: https://ourworldindata.org/gender-ratio#how-does-the-sex-ratio-at-birth-vary-across-the-world https://ourworldindata.org/gender-ratio#how-does-the-sex-rat... https://ourworldindata.org/gender-ratio#how-many-women-are-missing https://ourworldindata.org/gender-ratio#how-many-women-are-m...