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>"Intelligence" is begging the question when the whole debate is about whether they are intelligent, and what intelligence even is. Intelligent as in the outpu
by dontmobile 3y ago
>"Intelligence" is begging the question when the whole debate is about whether they are intelligent, and what intelligence even is.
Intelligent as in the output response is often indistinguishable from human level reasoning and/or creativity. Sometimes superior.
>"Creativity" however... consider my eyebrows raised. Where do you see LLMs surpassing humans in creativity?
>Examples?
Query:
Compose a poem about a half dragon half hippo on a quest to defeat a speck of dirt. The speck of dirt has armies of atomic bombs on legs defending him. Make the poem epic, heroic and eloquent.
Response:
In realms where imagination's fervor flows,
There lived a creature of unusual pose,
Half dragon, half hippo, in heroic repose,
Embarking on a quest that nobody chose.
A speck of dirt, mundane, minute,
Guarded by atoms, in explosive pursuit.
Their deadly legs, marching, resolute,
The specter of destruction, absolute.
Yet undeterred, our hero strode,
Down the path that destiny showed.
With dragon's fire and hippo's load,
To face the atomic, legged abode.
Mountains crumbled, rivers fled,
The sky above turned fiery red.
Yet the half-dragon, half-hippo, met the dread,
His heart on the quest, his mind on the thread.
"Begone!" he roared with a dragon's ire,
Faced the atomic legions, an unholy choir.
Against the speck, he breathed his fire,
In the face of oblivion, he did not tire.
He summoned his strength from the hippo's well,
Against the explosive onslaught, he fell.
But in his heart, a courage swell,
Against the speck of dirt, he'd rebel.
With one mighty heave, the ground did shake,
The atomic army faltered, began to break.
He plunged into the heart of the quake,
For his home, for his world, for all of their sake.
The speck of dirt, it's reign thus end,
No longer a threat, no longer a fiend.
Victorious stood our hippo-dragon friend,
His quest completed, his land to mend.
In tales of valor, they'll speak his name,
The dragon-hippo who tamed the atomic flame.
In epic sagas, his heroic claim,
Against a speck of dirt, he won the game.
Illustration:
https://imgur.com/a/AOHlBkf https://imgur.com/a/AOHlBkf
(you will get a cautionary warning about NSFW but don't worry... the picture is SFW)
I mean you could argue that this entire response is just stochastic parroting. But my point is you can't say anything either way. We don't know how these LLMs came up with the poem or the illustration. But one thing we do know is that none of what I posted here is a copy of anything that exists.
Is it objectively better or equal to what humans can produce? I don't know. You can try to Prove me wrong. Write a better poem and draw a better picture in less time.
- johnnyworker 3y ago> Guarded by atoms atoms, not atom bombs. > his mind on the thread What is that? All in all I found the poem to be really bad. "he won the game" is not something you'd hear in an epic, it generally seems to go by the gamer definition of "epic" which is just calling something epic because you can't be bothered to examine or describe it. It reminds me of Edgar A. Poe and his "draw the rest of the owl" style. "It was so foreboding and beyond human imagination". Show, don't tell. It breathed fire, it was so heroic and resolute and a lot of other adjectives just floating about, there is no fight at all - that all is skipped, the army faltered (because fire was breathed on atomic bombs? okay?)... it's just a bunch of filler text with no substance, I can't imagine any sequence of events based on this. And one of the images shows several people riding on the hippo, with another hippo in the background, totally failing the assignment. None of them show atomic bombs on legs, and don't even attempt to depict a speck of dust.
- dontmobile 3y agoBad poem. But creative. It took some creative liberties which you did not like. Also the LLM took creative liberties on the picture, similar to a human. I guess if a human drew extra people in some mock up I would automatically assume that human is a robot. Makes sense? No. As for the spec of dust. It's there , it's just too small for you to see. I guess you not liking the poem is now the demarcation for intelligence? Come on man. This poem is better than anything you can come up with and it's creative. Hmm as for the nukes. That one is your most legitimate claim. It definitively failed in that respect. But I would hardly call that a clear sign that it's not intelligent. This is more a clear sign that the LLM is not understood. We don't know why it didn't draw the nukes. To say it didn't because it's not intelligent? Well that's too bold of a claim.
- the_af 3y agoI'm sorry, I didn't ask you for a poem-like text generator. Your claim was: > LLMs Can produce output that is equal in intelligence and creativity to humans. It can even produce output that is objectively better than humans. I don't see this poem about half-dragon / half-hippos as particularly creative, but I'll preempt the "my opinion vs your opinion" with this: it definitely does NOT surpass what humans can come up with. Human poems are unarguably better. And this word salad of a poem definitely fed from human creations and is derivative of them. I didn't ask whether LLM could create poem-like texts.