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I have an a770 as my daily driver and it’s a great card. Especially at the prices. 16gb of vram, av1 encoder, can play most modern games with decent settings, g

I have an a770 as my daily driver and it’s a great card. Especially at the prices. 16gb of vram, av1 encoder, can play most modern games with decent settings, good blender integration and the oneAPI libraries for compute are slowly maturing. If you don’t need CUDA or bleeding edge performance, it’s a great mid-level card at a price thats hard to beat.

Mistletoe 3y ago
I had never priced it and expected something reasonable and it is $426 on Amazon… I don’t mean to start a holy war but this is why people buy consoles. I feel like the entire PC video card universe is so disconnected from reality. A PS5 or Xbox Series X is $499 and is a fully functioning device.
- Dalewyn 3y ago
  An A770 should be ~$370, and you can buy A750s for ~$250, new of course. $426 sounds like someone's trying to fleece you or there just isn't enough floating around to sell anymore as Intel gears up for the next lineup.
  - Mistletoe 3y ago
    https://www.newegg.com/amp/intel-21p01j00ba/p/N82E16814883001 https://www.newegg.com/amp/intel-21p01j00ba/p/N82E1681488300... The next google result was that one on Newegg. I saw it was out of stock and said I’ve seen all this before and gave up.
- brucethemoose2 3y ago
  In the console ecosystem, you pay more for games, subscriptions, fees and such, depending on your habits. And you don't get a fully functioning work PC out of it... Which is stupid, as both consoles would be great PCs, especially the XSX with bigger RAM ICs. They are kind of like high power Mac M1s.
  - erinnh 3y ago
    I don’t know how it is in the US, but where I live no employer allows you to use your private pc for work. I agree with your first point. However a plus on the console side is that I can actually still own my games instead of licensing them (if you buy physical).
    - NekkoDroid 3y ago
      > However a plus on the console side is that I can actually still own my games instead of licensing them (if you buy physical). LOL, LMAO even. Sweet summer child, wait until you actually find out.
      - erinnh 3y ago
        Really helpful comment. Mind explaining what you mean (preferably without being insufferable)?
        d_k_f 3y ago
        Increasingly, the situation for console games is the same as for PC games. So you're also only licensing the game, need to be online to at least authenticate or even always to play, etc. There probably still are games where you can just insert the disc into an offline console and start playing, but the trend goes in the other direction. EDIT: I'm obviously talking about modern consoles. Get a used PS2 and some games and play to your heart's content!
        erinnh 3y ago
        I can see the trend you’re talking about, but the vast majority of games on consoles I can buy, put into my console and play without being online. Some games are obviously always online, some are just straight broken without patches, but the majority are just ok without internet. So I find that, currently, my point stands.
        3y ago
- nazgulsenpai 3y ago
  A770 is $289 at NewEgg https://www.newegg.com/asrock-arc-a770-a770-pgd-8go/p/N82E16814930077 https://www.newegg.com/asrock-arc-a770-a770-pgd-8go/p/N82E16...
- nixass 3y ago
  Sole reason of not being able to use keyboard and mouse (and actually run software on it) is worth my PC'a money, and it's not much more expensive than console.
  - beAbU 3y ago
    Many xbox games these days support KBM. I play Modern Warfare II almost exclusively with a mouse and keeb.
- neilv 3y ago
  > this is why people buy consoles. Gaming consoles also seem to have fewer cheaters. A console also compartmentalizes video gaming away from your compute/Internet stuff. (Both technically/security/privacy-wise, and in terms of distraction.) (Source: Uses only a PS4 Pro for gaming, even though I have a PC with an RTX 3090 and gobs of RAM, sitting usually idle.)
  - fragmede 3y ago
    If it's just sitting there, why not have it earn money for you? (vast.ai/etc)
    - Hamuko 3y ago
      Where are they paying to rent out my GPU so that it covers the electricity and the wear?
      - fragmede 3y ago
        I don't understand what you're asking. If they don't pay enough to cover depreciation and the cost of electricity because you live in a high cost of electricity location, just say that.
  - cem2023 3y ago
    I come from the other end. I can never bring myself to console games again. I am too old/busy to ever want to get good at gaming again. I play a bit now and may not touch it again for a week later. So the muscle memory etc. don't stick and I don't want that to frustrate me. So I just play single player and use tools to give myself bullet time in every game, edit resources to escape grind. This is only possible on a PC. For content tourist style gaming, consoles are a no-go. I do like the compartmentalization aspect of consoles though. Sooner or later Steam games will start being a security hazard. I don't want to do banking on a computer with games installed.
- ekianjo 3y ago
  > A PS5 or Xbox Series X is $499 and is a fully functioning device. They can play games and nothing else. So completely worthless comparison.
  - ovao 3y ago
    Not really true. They can also double as media centers and as Blu-ray players. They’re not very good at the former, but given the apps available for both, they’re at least serviceable.
- Teever 3y ago
  You know that most consoles are sold below cost, with the expectation that the difference will be made up in the premiums on games, right?
  - ThatPlayer 3y ago
    Not necessarily premiums. The manufacturers make their money back just by taking a percentage of all the (digital) sales. That's why even the Steam Deck can be sold so cheap, without a premium on games. They can make up the difference with just more sales because you now have a device you'll use more.
- PeterStuer 3y ago
  Console and PC are very different gaming experiences though. One is no substitute for the other.
  - deleted 3y ago
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  - nottorp 3y ago
    > They can play games and nothing else. So completely worthless comparison. Except they cost less than a high end video card (not to mention the rest of the PC) and your games are guaranteed to work. > Console and PC are very different gaming experiences though. One is no substitute for the other. That's absolutely correct, but innovation in PC games is on the indie side and those aren't so GPU hungry. Most AAA titles are the same on consoles and PC these days so might as well get them for the console.
    - littlestymaar 3y ago
      So if you want to play both AAA and indie you buy both a PC and a console? How is that supposed to be cheaper than just adding a graphic card to your PC?
      - nottorp 3y ago
        The indies I like don't need a serious graphic card. A good bunch of them work just fine on a 2018 i3 mac mini with the integrated graphics decelerator... Don't you need the 1000+ EUR cards to play AAAs at the same performance as a console? That is, twice the price of a console only for the video card. Edit: and I need the PCs for work anyway.
        vladvasiliu 3y ago
        Aren't console graphics usually not as good as the PC versions? Even if they have the same resolution, I was under the impression that effects and whatnot were lower. If that's in fact the case, then a 1000 EUR card wouldn't give you the same experience as a console. Hell, my mid-range AMD I bought new for 300 EUR has better graphics than my sister's PS4 pro.
- globular-toast 3y ago
  They are too expensive but it's slightly better if you consider it as a marginal cost on top of a PC you already have. Upgradability is the whole point of PCs really. You can keep a system going for many years by taking advantage of this. And a console isn't really a "fully functional system" when compared to a PC.
- paulmd 3y ago
  Well, yeah. A console is basically a discrete gpu with a few cpu cores bolted on to the gpu core, and a ssd added. Discrete gpu involves paying for all the memory costs, all of the cooling costs, all of the video outputs and BOM costs, all of the testing and validation costs, and then just doesn’t do the last little bit that makes it a fully functional PC. Instead you are expected to buy a second set of memory, cooling, fans, etc and ship them all individually with total packaged shipping size of a small pallet, compared to a console shipped in something the size of a breadbox. It’s literally the most expensive way to build a computer with the most redundancy in system design and the most waste in shipment and validation. So it’s not surprising that console costs and midrange dGPU costs are convergent. They are 90% of the way to a console, just missing the last few bits! (But thats what PC gamers get from clinging to an outdated 1980 standard for computer design, and the form factors it provides for expansion cards. Just ask people to buy a new backwards compatible power cable string for their gpu, and provide them with a free adapter, and then watch the tantrums flow. The religious reverence for the ATX and pcie add-in-card form-factors is absurd and people get what they deserve when the pc designs that shake out of it 40 years later are incredibly poorly-fit to the real-world needs. Everything has changed, gpus dominate the system now, we deliver up to 400W through an intricate network of 75w/150w “aux” connector, and we still design cards and cases and motherboards like it’s 1980 and a gpu and cpu can both be passively cooled…) You can build a Steam Console much cheaper, but it will also involve some sacrifices the PC community hates, like soldered (GDDR6/7) memory and no CPU/GPU upgradeability. But it’ll be 1/4 of the price, so it’ll be worth it even if you have to replace the whole unit to upgrade. That's why consoles are built that way, and not as an ATX PC.
- sangnoir 3y ago
  > I don’t mean to start a holy war but this is why people buy consoles [...] A PS5 or Xbox Series X is $499 and is a fully functioning device. How much do the console games cost? PC and console gamers tend to spend more on games than hardware, and PC games are offer more bang for the buck when amortized over playable time. Additionally, consoles are not backwards compatible with games for earlier platforms, so one has to re-buy versions of games they already own. Consoles are appliances, and I understand the appeal of their simplicity. However, until consoles offer the flexibility of playing a game I bought 10 years ago[1] or the latest and greatest AAA title, I can't abandon PC gaming. 1. Or a 10-year old title on sale for $3.99
- amelius 3y ago
  Aren't consoles sold at a loss? Maybe that's what hackers should target then.
valianteffort 3y ago
>and the oneAPI libraries for compute are slowly maturing I'll say I had a miserable time trying so setup oneAPI for VS Code on Windows. Their website made it seem like it was possible, there are even plugins, but I never got it working. Eventually I just gave up and downloaded Visual Studio. Getting oneAPI to work on Arch Linux, where it's not even officially supported, was also tricky but considerably easier. Haven't been able to successfully get PyTorch or TensorFlow code to utilize the GPU but did get some DPC++ working with oneAPI. All-in-all it's not a terrible experience but could be a lot better.
- halotrope 3y ago
  I got it installed on Ubuntu and managed to get OneApi in blender, pytorch and stable diffusion playground. I’d say if this is your primary interest, wait another generation. I’m such a fan of opensource vendor drivers that I had to try already
  - valianteffort 3y ago
    I'm pretty happy with Arch so I don't think I'll switch. As far as stable diffusion I read a guide on setting it up using WSL and it never worked. No telling what's wrong because there's just very little info about these GPU's out there.
    - stavros 3y ago
      I have an nVidia card and I never managed to get any AI stuff working on my base system. The only thing that's worked off the box is Docker images with CUDA support.
- ColonelPhantom 3y ago
  When did you try PyTorch and Tensorflow? I think they were updated pretty recently to the latest upstream releases, which is necessary to work with Python 3.11 which is the version that Arch is currently shipping.
christkv 3y ago
What's the state of Linux drivers for it?
- onli 3y ago
  Last I looked not great. They work, but with worse performance than under Windows, relative to AMD. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nkSkt7JqR9U https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nkSkt7JqR9U was my source. They did get some performance improvements afterwards, but not enough to make up the difference, estimated.
  - mtlmtlmtlmtl 3y ago
    That video is for 6.2. 6.4 drivers are much better. And in general, since Intel don't have proprietary drivers for Linux, they'll very soon have far better driver support than both Nvidia and AMD on Linux.
    - onli 3y ago
      Why? The AMD drivers for Linux are also free, aren't they? I doubt that the 6.4 kernel improves performance enough to make up the difference to AMD cards in their category, but granted, that was the estimation I mentioned. A newer source would be nice!
      - mtlmtlmtlmtl 3y ago
        Mostly, but they've still got propietary "pro" drivers for certain feature sets. I certainly trust Intel more to work with the open source community on driver support for their hardware, based on the history. Intel iGPUs had open source Linux drivers from the beginning. AMD and ATI before them ignored us for decades, and they're still not fully there. I applaud them for finally having made some progress, but it's been slow, and they still have a ways to go. Intel are poised to overtake them quite quickly in this respect(Linux driver support) despite the added work of having started completely from scratch. Of course they're still behind on hardware performance, but that's to be expected from a first gen product. I definitely think they could make a mark on the mid/high(but not top/enthusiast) tier market within a couple gens, especially when price vs Nvidia is taken into account.
22c 3y ago
> 16gb of vram Having only 8GB of VRAM seems to be the biggest crippling factor for this A580. I was looking at A770s on eBay and on good day you can get them for quite a good price.
- halotrope 3y ago
  You can buy it new for around $300. If you understand the limitations it’s amazing value iyam
  - evilos 3y ago
    Only the 8GB model. Hardware Unboxed latest gpu market update shows the 16GB model is selling for $50 above MSRP at $400 and the 8GB model for $280. You definitely shouldn't buy it at $400 since the 6700xt handily beats it and costs $330. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fISiTHe89eA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fISiTHe89eA The RX 7600 costs $270, has 8GB of VRAM and AV1 encoding, and outperforms the 8GB a770. So I really don't see an objective reason to buy the a770 aside from supporting a 3rd player in the gpu market (which is a good reason IMO).
- hyperthesis 3y ago
  Yeah, for gaming anyway. AAA games are console-first these days, and are finally targetting current-gen (ps5/series x) which have 16GB (though gpu/cpu shared), so 8gb will become a problem.

Mistletoe 3y ago

I had never priced it and expected something reasonable and it is $426 on Amazon… I don’t mean to start a holy war but this is why people buy consoles. I feel like the entire PC video card universe is so disconnected from reality. A PS5 or Xbox Series X is $499 and is a fully functioning device.

Dalewyn 3y ago
An A770 should be ~$370, and you can buy A750s for ~$250, new of course. $426 sounds like someone's trying to fleece you or there just isn't enough floating around to sell anymore as Intel gears up for the next lineup.
- Mistletoe 3y ago
  https://www.newegg.com/amp/intel-21p01j00ba/p/N82E16814883001 https://www.newegg.com/amp/intel-21p01j00ba/p/N82E1681488300... The next google result was that one on Newegg. I saw it was out of stock and said I’ve seen all this before and gave up.
brucethemoose2 3y ago
In the console ecosystem, you pay more for games, subscriptions, fees and such, depending on your habits. And you don't get a fully functioning work PC out of it... Which is stupid, as both consoles would be great PCs, especially the XSX with bigger RAM ICs. They are kind of like high power Mac M1s.
- erinnh 3y ago
  I don’t know how it is in the US, but where I live no employer allows you to use your private pc for work. I agree with your first point. However a plus on the console side is that I can actually still own my games instead of licensing them (if you buy physical).
  - NekkoDroid 3y ago
    > However a plus on the console side is that I can actually still own my games instead of licensing them (if you buy physical). LOL, LMAO even. Sweet summer child, wait until you actually find out.
    - erinnh 3y ago
      Really helpful comment. Mind explaining what you mean (preferably without being insufferable)?
      - d_k_f 3y ago
        Increasingly, the situation for console games is the same as for PC games. So you're also only licensing the game, need to be online to at least authenticate or even always to play, etc. There probably still are games where you can just insert the disc into an offline console and start playing, but the trend goes in the other direction. EDIT: I'm obviously talking about modern consoles. Get a used PS2 and some games and play to your heart's content!
        erinnh 3y ago
        I can see the trend you’re talking about, but the vast majority of games on consoles I can buy, put into my console and play without being online. Some games are obviously always online, some are just straight broken without patches, but the majority are just ok without internet. So I find that, currently, my point stands.
        3y ago
nazgulsenpai 3y ago
A770 is $289 at NewEgg https://www.newegg.com/asrock-arc-a770-a770-pgd-8go/p/N82E16814930077 https://www.newegg.com/asrock-arc-a770-a770-pgd-8go/p/N82E16...
nixass 3y ago
Sole reason of not being able to use keyboard and mouse (and actually run software on it) is worth my PC'a money, and it's not much more expensive than console.
- beAbU 3y ago
  Many xbox games these days support KBM. I play Modern Warfare II almost exclusively with a mouse and keeb.
neilv 3y ago
> this is why people buy consoles. Gaming consoles also seem to have fewer cheaters. A console also compartmentalizes video gaming away from your compute/Internet stuff. (Both technically/security/privacy-wise, and in terms of distraction.) (Source: Uses only a PS4 Pro for gaming, even though I have a PC with an RTX 3090 and gobs of RAM, sitting usually idle.)
- fragmede 3y ago
  If it's just sitting there, why not have it earn money for you? (vast.ai/etc)
  - Hamuko 3y ago
    Where are they paying to rent out my GPU so that it covers the electricity and the wear?
    - fragmede 3y ago
      I don't understand what you're asking. If they don't pay enough to cover depreciation and the cost of electricity because you live in a high cost of electricity location, just say that.
- cem2023 3y ago
  I come from the other end. I can never bring myself to console games again. I am too old/busy to ever want to get good at gaming again. I play a bit now and may not touch it again for a week later. So the muscle memory etc. don't stick and I don't want that to frustrate me. So I just play single player and use tools to give myself bullet time in every game, edit resources to escape grind. This is only possible on a PC. For content tourist style gaming, consoles are a no-go. I do like the compartmentalization aspect of consoles though. Sooner or later Steam games will start being a security hazard. I don't want to do banking on a computer with games installed.
ekianjo 3y ago
> A PS5 or Xbox Series X is $499 and is a fully functioning device. They can play games and nothing else. So completely worthless comparison.
- ovao 3y ago
  Not really true. They can also double as media centers and as Blu-ray players. They’re not very good at the former, but given the apps available for both, they’re at least serviceable.
Teever 3y ago
You know that most consoles are sold below cost, with the expectation that the difference will be made up in the premiums on games, right?
- ThatPlayer 3y ago
  Not necessarily premiums. The manufacturers make their money back just by taking a percentage of all the (digital) sales. That's why even the Steam Deck can be sold so cheap, without a premium on games. They can make up the difference with just more sales because you now have a device you'll use more.
PeterStuer 3y ago
Console and PC are very different gaming experiences though. One is no substitute for the other.
- deleted 3y ago
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- nottorp 3y ago
  > They can play games and nothing else. So completely worthless comparison. Except they cost less than a high end video card (not to mention the rest of the PC) and your games are guaranteed to work. > Console and PC are very different gaming experiences though. One is no substitute for the other. That's absolutely correct, but innovation in PC games is on the indie side and those aren't so GPU hungry. Most AAA titles are the same on consoles and PC these days so might as well get them for the console.
  - littlestymaar 3y ago
    So if you want to play both AAA and indie you buy both a PC and a console? How is that supposed to be cheaper than just adding a graphic card to your PC?
    - nottorp 3y ago
      The indies I like don't need a serious graphic card. A good bunch of them work just fine on a 2018 i3 mac mini with the integrated graphics decelerator... Don't you need the 1000+ EUR cards to play AAAs at the same performance as a console? That is, twice the price of a console only for the video card. Edit: and I need the PCs for work anyway.
      - vladvasiliu 3y ago
        Aren't console graphics usually not as good as the PC versions? Even if they have the same resolution, I was under the impression that effects and whatnot were lower. If that's in fact the case, then a 1000 EUR card wouldn't give you the same experience as a console. Hell, my mid-range AMD I bought new for 300 EUR has better graphics than my sister's PS4 pro.
globular-toast 3y ago
They are too expensive but it's slightly better if you consider it as a marginal cost on top of a PC you already have. Upgradability is the whole point of PCs really. You can keep a system going for many years by taking advantage of this. And a console isn't really a "fully functional system" when compared to a PC.
paulmd 3y ago
Well, yeah. A console is basically a discrete gpu with a few cpu cores bolted on to the gpu core, and a ssd added. Discrete gpu involves paying for all the memory costs, all of the cooling costs, all of the video outputs and BOM costs, all of the testing and validation costs, and then just doesn’t do the last little bit that makes it a fully functional PC. Instead you are expected to buy a second set of memory, cooling, fans, etc and ship them all individually with total packaged shipping size of a small pallet, compared to a console shipped in something the size of a breadbox. It’s literally the most expensive way to build a computer with the most redundancy in system design and the most waste in shipment and validation. So it’s not surprising that console costs and midrange dGPU costs are convergent. They are 90% of the way to a console, just missing the last few bits! (But thats what PC gamers get from clinging to an outdated 1980 standard for computer design, and the form factors it provides for expansion cards. Just ask people to buy a new backwards compatible power cable string for their gpu, and provide them with a free adapter, and then watch the tantrums flow. The religious reverence for the ATX and pcie add-in-card form-factors is absurd and people get what they deserve when the pc designs that shake out of it 40 years later are incredibly poorly-fit to the real-world needs. Everything has changed, gpus dominate the system now, we deliver up to 400W through an intricate network of 75w/150w “aux” connector, and we still design cards and cases and motherboards like it’s 1980 and a gpu and cpu can both be passively cooled…) You can build a Steam Console much cheaper, but it will also involve some sacrifices the PC community hates, like soldered (GDDR6/7) memory and no CPU/GPU upgradeability. But it’ll be 1/4 of the price, so it’ll be worth it even if you have to replace the whole unit to upgrade. That's why consoles are built that way, and not as an ATX PC.
sangnoir 3y ago
> I don’t mean to start a holy war but this is why people buy consoles [...] A PS5 or Xbox Series X is $499 and is a fully functioning device. How much do the console games cost? PC and console gamers tend to spend more on games than hardware, and PC games are offer more bang for the buck when amortized over playable time. Additionally, consoles are not backwards compatible with games for earlier platforms, so one has to re-buy versions of games they already own. Consoles are appliances, and I understand the appeal of their simplicity. However, until consoles offer the flexibility of playing a game I bought 10 years ago[1] or the latest and greatest AAA title, I can't abandon PC gaming. 1. Or a 10-year old title on sale for $3.99
amelius 3y ago
Aren't consoles sold at a loss? Maybe that's what hackers should target then.

valianteffort 3y ago

>and the oneAPI libraries for compute are slowly maturing I'll say I had a miserable time trying so setup oneAPI for VS Code on Windows. Their website made it seem like it was possible, there are even plugins, but I never got it working. Eventually I just gave up and downloaded Visual Studio. Getting oneAPI to work on Arch Linux, where it's not even officially supported, was also tricky but considerably easier. Haven't been able to successfully get PyTorch or TensorFlow code to utilize the GPU but did get some DPC++ working with oneAPI. All-in-all it's not a terrible experience but could be a lot better.

halotrope 3y ago
I got it installed on Ubuntu and managed to get OneApi in blender, pytorch and stable diffusion playground. I’d say if this is your primary interest, wait another generation. I’m such a fan of opensource vendor drivers that I had to try already
- valianteffort 3y ago
  I'm pretty happy with Arch so I don't think I'll switch. As far as stable diffusion I read a guide on setting it up using WSL and it never worked. No telling what's wrong because there's just very little info about these GPU's out there.
  - stavros 3y ago
    I have an nVidia card and I never managed to get any AI stuff working on my base system. The only thing that's worked off the box is Docker images with CUDA support.
ColonelPhantom 3y ago
When did you try PyTorch and Tensorflow? I think they were updated pretty recently to the latest upstream releases, which is necessary to work with Python 3.11 which is the version that Arch is currently shipping.

christkv 3y ago

What's the state of Linux drivers for it?

onli 3y ago
Last I looked not great. They work, but with worse performance than under Windows, relative to AMD. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nkSkt7JqR9U https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nkSkt7JqR9U was my source. They did get some performance improvements afterwards, but not enough to make up the difference, estimated.
- mtlmtlmtlmtl 3y ago
  That video is for 6.2. 6.4 drivers are much better. And in general, since Intel don't have proprietary drivers for Linux, they'll very soon have far better driver support than both Nvidia and AMD on Linux.
  - onli 3y ago
    Why? The AMD drivers for Linux are also free, aren't they? I doubt that the 6.4 kernel improves performance enough to make up the difference to AMD cards in their category, but granted, that was the estimation I mentioned. A newer source would be nice!
    - mtlmtlmtlmtl 3y ago
      Mostly, but they've still got propietary "pro" drivers for certain feature sets. I certainly trust Intel more to work with the open source community on driver support for their hardware, based on the history. Intel iGPUs had open source Linux drivers from the beginning. AMD and ATI before them ignored us for decades, and they're still not fully there. I applaud them for finally having made some progress, but it's been slow, and they still have a ways to go. Intel are poised to overtake them quite quickly in this respect(Linux driver support) despite the added work of having started completely from scratch. Of course they're still behind on hardware performance, but that's to be expected from a first gen product. I definitely think they could make a mark on the mid/high(but not top/enthusiast) tier market within a couple gens, especially when price vs Nvidia is taken into account.

22c 3y ago

> 16gb of vram Having only 8GB of VRAM seems to be the biggest crippling factor for this A580. I was looking at A770s on eBay and on good day you can get them for quite a good price.

halotrope 3y ago
You can buy it new for around $300. If you understand the limitations it’s amazing value iyam
- evilos 3y ago
  Only the 8GB model. Hardware Unboxed latest gpu market update shows the 16GB model is selling for $50 above MSRP at $400 and the 8GB model for $280. You definitely shouldn't buy it at $400 since the 6700xt handily beats it and costs $330. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fISiTHe89eA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fISiTHe89eA The RX 7600 costs $270, has 8GB of VRAM and AV1 encoding, and outperforms the 8GB a770. So I really don't see an objective reason to buy the a770 aside from supporting a 3rd player in the gpu market (which is a good reason IMO).
hyperthesis 3y ago
Yeah, for gaming anyway. AAA games are console-first these days, and are finally targetting current-gen (ps5/series x) which have 16GB (though gpu/cpu shared), so 8gb will become a problem.