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> It obviously is attractive to programmers and IT professionals. I would say this is a blessing as it allows us to focus on things that matter to tech-savvy u
by freediver 3y ago
> It obviously is attractive to programmers and IT professionals.
I would say this is a blessing as it allows us to focus on things that matter to tech-savvy users (Kagi founder here).
> I wonder if they are interested in attracting users with more diverse searching requirements,
Yes, we are :)
> if so, how they would be able to actually reach them
Through our family plan [1], most likely. This is how I got my family members on board a paid search product.
I might add that "Kagi for Kids" is the first true attempt at having a search engine made specifically for kids, with a host of parent controls, which was never a thing in the last 25 years for some reason.
We are also seeing more and more users who are not techies (but are tech-savvy) becoming members. This may be followed by non-tech savvy users in the future. I do see the first signs of the age of ad-supported, "free" search, coming to an end [2].
[1] https://blog.kagi.com/family-plan https://blog.kagi.com/family-plan
[2] https://blog.kagi.com/age-pagerank-over https://blog.kagi.com/age-pagerank-over
- jonReadingNews 3y agoI was hesitant to configure my partner’s devices (family plan) to set as default engine but eventually convinced them and they haven’t even brought it up once since. I assume no news is good news! I would be less hesitant to recommend to other non-tech friends/family if it were easier to configure as default on Safari. Heck, I’d even entertain gifting subscriptions. The quality of results for me has been incredibly reliable. Enjoyable, even. And, I didn’t even take the time to start configuring these kinds of rules. Love this. Great product. Wishing long, lasting success.
- freediver 3y agoThank you very much for the kind words. Unfortunately we can not influence the choices that Safari makes, but we did pull an effort to build an entire browser [1] to replace it because of that :) [1] https://browser.kagi.com https://browser.kagi.com
- unshavedyak 3y agoAny progress on a Linux version?
- freediver 3y agoWe haven't begun work on the Linux version of the browser yet. We will need to significantly expand our team before undertaking the development of a browser for a new platform.
- mkbkn 3y agoPlease make a browser for Linux too. And please make it based on Firefox preferably. Thank you. Lots of love to Kagi, though I'm not a paying user yet but I do love what you folks are doing and want to f*ck Google.
- saagarjha 3y agoWhy Firefox? What’s wrong with the WebKit they’re using already?
- latexr 3y ago> And please make it based on Firefox preferably. The macOS browser is based on WebKit. If the team can’t justify the Linux version yet, changing it to a whole different engine (and one which is notoriously hard to embed, by admission of Mozilla itself) is even less likely.
- DavideNL 3y agoThere's an alternative [1], so you can use any search engine. Although i always wonder about whether my privacy is at risk when using this app... [1] xSearch for Safari: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/xsearch-for-safari/id1579902068 https://apps.apple.com/us/app/xsearch-for-safari/id157990206...
- radicality 3y agoHi. Thanks for the great service! Any chance you would consider adding cryptocurrency payments as an option? You would load up the account with these prepaid credits, and then use whatever plan you want until the credits run out. This is how I pay for Mullvad and works well for me. I think would be nice as I see kagi is aiming to be privacy-forward. And it’s nice knowing that such a payment is a one-off and won’t forever keep renewing.
- freediver 3y agoWe have a discussion on our forum [1] about this. Input welcome! [1] https://kagifeedback.org/d/493-enable-anonymous-payments-ala-bitcoinmonero https://kagifeedback.org/d/493-enable-anonymous-payments-ala...
- ajkdhcb2 3y agoYikes, that thread reflects so badly on Kagi to me. Over a year of people explaining why Monero is needed if you actually cared about user privacy, with no results. Weird claims that it is difficult to implement. Can only conclude that the company doesn't actually care about user privacy
- dehugger 3y agoOr, more likely, they didn't want to take on the additional burden of transacting in funny money of dubious worth.
- ajkdhcb2 3y agoHope you enjoy linking all your search queries to your credit card, really. This attitude is unbelievable to me.
- nottorp 3y agoAnd pray tell, how does one acquire this Monero that you're defending with religious fervor? By linking your credit card to some "currency" exchange that may or may not already be under investigation for fraud?
- eloisius 3y agoThe work you all are doing is incredible. Thank you, and I’ll be a paying customer as long as you keep the show going. I’m notoriously stingy about paying subscriptions for tech services, but the money I pay for Kagi directly impacts my productivity. It feels like a distant nightmare when I think back about the days when I spent time sitting through blogspam results on Google :p
- int_19h 3y agoOne thing that I don't quite get about your family plans: why is the smaller plan ($14 for 1.5k queries) cheaper per query than the larger one ($20 for 2k queries)? Not that it's a big difference, but it feels off somehow.
- Gareth321 3y agoProduct prices are determined by the willingness for consumers to pay for them. Families (especially kids) have different priorities and search habits to IT professionals, for example, which appears to be a common persona for them. It is likely that they bet that the four extra users and child friendly options are what families care about, rather than a high number of searches. It's also likely that families simply don't need that many searches, and in limiting them to 2,000, they discourage abuse (six professionals purchasing one family plan).
- Semaphor 3y ago> We are also seeing more and more users who are not techies (but are tech-savvy) becoming members. I’ve seen quite a few marketing people and researchers in (their discord channel) #introduce-yourself
- user3939382 3y ago> parent controls, which was never a thing in the last 25 years for some reason. IE tried to setup a rating scheme for websites to adopt for this purpose but it never got any traction. Someone wrote an interesting post about it once but I can’t find it.
- Llamamoe 3y agoHi. Would there be any chance of you releasing the index of how many trackers websites have publicly? I remember reading about that somewhere on your site, but you eventually took that offline.
- freediver 3y agoSure, we can make this a public API. We were already thinking about this but other things got in the way. Would you mind posting this as a feature suggestion on kagifeedback.org ? (this is how most ideas for Kagi come to life)