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Wow. I already thought about cities needing to organize "cool shelters", but it might become a requirement. It seems there are no viable statistics for those

by jokoon 3y ago

Wow. I already thought about cities needing to organize "cool shelters", but it might become a requirement. It seems there are no viable statistics for those kinds of death. I live on the hottest part of France and I already planned to move to a colder cheap city. I'm expecting people to progressively do the same.

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androidbishop 3y ago
When I was homeless in LA, the heat was unbearable, and there was precious little shade anywhere. My only respite was public libraries, which are free, air conditioned, quiet, have restrooms, water fountains, and loaded with free entertainment and education. I spent nearly every day there.
tredre3 3y ago
https://www.texastribune.org/2023/01/26/texas-heat-deaths-migrants-climate-change/ https://www.texastribune.org/2023/01/26/texas-heat-deaths-mi... 279 died last year. I don't know how reliable texas tribune is but they cite their sources. Is that not viable statistics?
- tapvt 3y ago
  IMO, Texas Tribune is about as good as it gets for news in TX. I tend to trust their reporting. I do make a small monthly donation, as they’re non-profit.
  - 1letterunixname 3y ago
    TT is decent but doesn't have the staff of a huge NYC megapaper or ProPublica. (ProPublica is basically old school journalism with some influence of WSJ pre-Murdoch.) TT does original reporting that's quoted in other papers. PS: TT is ~9 blocks due west of where I hang my hat. :) Greg Casar, our rep for TX-35, is on Democracy Now! every few months because he's sane, sensible, courageous, and on the side of decency such as ensuring federal standards for health and safety when the state decides to preempt local regulations.
  - johnthescott 3y ago
    i love the trib. i quite contributing when the format changed from simple list of articles to current "responsive" format. takes way to long to scan articles, which i once did daily. the pain never ends.
theluketaylor 3y ago
Phoenix, AZ has an office of heat response: https://www.phoenix.gov/heat https://www.phoenix.gov/heat I think it will become a necessity in many places
lupire 3y ago
It's not hard to get cool if you can get out -- shopping center, library, etc. But, > her father's mobility issues probably made them cautious about leaving the house even as temperatures rose inside
- LinuxBender 3y ago
  Another fallback I have used in the past was to hang a hose into the shower and attach a mister head to it. I also had a mister for the porch. Some people install a mister rail [1] along their patio that has a dozen misters on them. They work great. Uses some water but better than heat stroke. This may be useful for people that can't leave their house and can't afford to install or operate HVAC. Another method I've used was to point a carpet dryer which is just a big portable blower to a window to blow all the heat out of the house and pull in cooler air from the other windows in the evening so I could sleep. I never bothered to install HVAC. I've since moved to a much cooler place and have an earth bermed home. [1] - https://www.amazon.com/Misters-Outside-Nozzles-Umbrella-Backyard/dp/B096MP6M9V/ https://www.amazon.com/Misters-Outside-Nozzles-Umbrella-Back...
  - brewdad 3y ago
    Misters work great in hot, dry climates. In hot, humid climates like the Gulf Coast, not so much.
Bluescreenbuddy 3y ago
Good luck! Texas is a conservative stronghold and they’re all about personal responsibility. A tax funded cool shelter? No sir, that’s socialism!
RetroTechie 3y ago
Or go underground like some in Australia do (homes built in old opal mines or the like). Earlier this year, I moved to a boat. No A/C, but deck is painted white (as with most boats, for good reason) & if temps get too uncomfortable, water for cooling / swimming is always nearby. :-) I suspect significant % of world population might be forced to seek creative solutions like this in years ahead...

by jokoon 3y ago

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androidbishop 3y ago

When I was homeless in LA, the heat was unbearable, and there was precious little shade anywhere. My only respite was public libraries, which are free, air conditioned, quiet, have restrooms, water fountains, and loaded with free entertainment and education. I spent nearly every day there.

tredre3 3y ago

https://www.texastribune.org/2023/01/26/texas-heat-deaths-migrants-climate-change/ https://www.texastribune.org/2023/01/26/texas-heat-deaths-mi... 279 died last year. I don't know how reliable texas tribune is but they cite their sources. Is that not viable statistics?

tapvt 3y ago
IMO, Texas Tribune is about as good as it gets for news in TX. I tend to trust their reporting. I do make a small monthly donation, as they’re non-profit.
- 1letterunixname 3y ago
  TT is decent but doesn't have the staff of a huge NYC megapaper or ProPublica. (ProPublica is basically old school journalism with some influence of WSJ pre-Murdoch.) TT does original reporting that's quoted in other papers. PS: TT is ~9 blocks due west of where I hang my hat. :) Greg Casar, our rep for TX-35, is on Democracy Now! every few months because he's sane, sensible, courageous, and on the side of decency such as ensuring federal standards for health and safety when the state decides to preempt local regulations.
- johnthescott 3y ago
  i love the trib. i quite contributing when the format changed from simple list of articles to current "responsive" format. takes way to long to scan articles, which i once did daily. the pain never ends.

theluketaylor 3y ago

Phoenix, AZ has an office of heat response: https://www.phoenix.gov/heat https://www.phoenix.gov/heat I think it will become a necessity in many places

lupire 3y ago

It's not hard to get cool if you can get out -- shopping center, library, etc. But, > her father's mobility issues probably made them cautious about leaving the house even as temperatures rose inside

LinuxBender 3y ago
Another fallback I have used in the past was to hang a hose into the shower and attach a mister head to it. I also had a mister for the porch. Some people install a mister rail [1] along their patio that has a dozen misters on them. They work great. Uses some water but better than heat stroke. This may be useful for people that can't leave their house and can't afford to install or operate HVAC. Another method I've used was to point a carpet dryer which is just a big portable blower to a window to blow all the heat out of the house and pull in cooler air from the other windows in the evening so I could sleep. I never bothered to install HVAC. I've since moved to a much cooler place and have an earth bermed home. [1] - https://www.amazon.com/Misters-Outside-Nozzles-Umbrella-Backyard/dp/B096MP6M9V/ https://www.amazon.com/Misters-Outside-Nozzles-Umbrella-Back...
- brewdad 3y ago
  Misters work great in hot, dry climates. In hot, humid climates like the Gulf Coast, not so much.

Bluescreenbuddy 3y ago

Good luck! Texas is a conservative stronghold and they’re all about personal responsibility. A tax funded cool shelter? No sir, that’s socialism!

RetroTechie 3y ago

Or go underground like some in Australia do (homes built in old opal mines or the like). Earlier this year, I moved to a boat. No A/C, but deck is painted white (as with most boats, for good reason) & if temps get too uncomfortable, water for cooling / swimming is always nearby. :-) I suspect significant % of world population might be forced to seek creative solutions like this in years ahead...