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These entrenched groups can only win by stopping the municipal options from starting. Once they've started using it they'll never go back (willingly) to these b
by a2tech 3y ago
These entrenched groups can only win by stopping the municipal options from starting. Once they've started using it they'll never go back (willingly) to these big corporate messes.
- bob1029 3y agoI am on a big corporate mess, but its a decent one (AT&T fiber). After being on this connection for ~2 years, I cannot imagine going back to Comcast. I've actually been looking at moving, and my #1 filter is fiber network availability. I will literally skip an otherwise perfect property if it doesn't have access, or the ability to add access for <6 figures.
- irrational 3y agoSame. I our old house we were on Verizon (which became Frontier which became zipplyfiber) fiber optic network for 17 years. It was relatively cheap, reliable, and fast. When we moved a few years ago, I refused to consider any house that wasn’t on ZipplyFiber.
- jrnichols 3y agoI've had AT&T Fiber in 2 different states and it's been an awesome product. I think they did a really good job with it and it's still improving. We're in the same boat - we won't buy a house if AT&T Fiber (or at least Sonic Fiber) isn't available at the address. Showing that only Xfinity is available is a legit dealbreaker for us. Xfinity has frequent outages here in Sacramento.
- toomuchtodo 3y agoIndeed, each win against Corporate Last Mile persists. High value effort in inhibiting the success of their lobbying efforts. Get the fiber on the poles or in the ground and drive them out of town. https://ilsr.org/broadband-2/ https://ilsr.org/broadband-2/ https://communitynets.org/content/community-network-map https://communitynets.org/content/community-network-map
- nostromo 3y agoMeh... that's not really true. I used to support municipal fiber in my home town (Seattle) -- but after many years of dollars spent and zero progress, the city finally mothballed the effort. And now I have fiber to the home (Centurylink) at a price so low I don't even think about it. I think the key is competition. If your city doesn't have competition, it absolutely makes sense to create competition from the municipality.
- JohnFen 3y agoYou're happy with CenturyLink? The people I know who have it absolutely hate that company, just as much as Comcast customers tend to hate Comcast.
- bob1029 3y agoI don't think its the company as much as the nature of the product. Fiber is simply in a completely different universe of quality compared to DOCSIS & DSL. AT&T is literally the worst thing on earth... unless you have access to their fiber offerings. Then it might be among the best. I can get 5gbps in my area now but I don't bother. Internet is solved for me as far as I am concerned now.
- selectodude 3y agoI'm trying to get 5Gbit just as a way to upgrade the homelab. 5gbit firewall and routing requires a lot of new toys :)
- JohnFen 3y agoI don't know. I know that I despise Comcast, although my problem with them isn't the actual service itself. That's been great. My problem is dealing with them as a company. If I had any other option, even one with worse service, I'd switch away in a heartbeat if the new company were easier to deal with.
- nostromo 3y agoYes, I'm happy with their gigabit fiber product specifically. I can't comment on other products.
- treis 3y agoThat's not true. Provo, as an example, spent 50 millions on their fiber before selling it to Google for $1.
- pottertheotter 3y agoThat’s true, but it was a pretty early attempt at creating municipal broadband. The “industry” has learned a lot from the negative outcomes about how to do it successfully.