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> 6. World recognition to manage resources globally Do you mean communism?
by lottin 3y ago
> 6. World recognition to manage resources globally
Do you mean communism?
- rnk 3y agoThink of the sea and pirate trawlers destroying the seabeds everywhere. We need to manage it.
- ChicagoDave 3y ago- Protect the Amazon - Distribute food instead of wasting it - Build more trains, turn roads into park ways and bike paths - Recognize climate change globally before it kills us all
- kaliqt 3y agoThe earth's climate changes naturally over the course of tens of thousands of years. The key for us is to minimally impact it and let it do what it wants. Now.... We may disagree on letting it go as it goes. Ice ages would overtake a ton of countries in glaciers entirely, so we may agree that that should be stopped? But........ Doing that would be directly trying to challenge the solar system and earth on their natural cycles. There would likely be massive unforeseen repercussions.
- ChicagoDave 3y agoYeah this is the typical response from a denier. Let’s use a true statement to undercut a greater threat to humanity. Carbon dioxide is a naturally occurring gas, yes. But humanity isn’t producing natural levels of it. We’re producing levels the planet has never seen at a speed that, at this point, is more than likely to kill off ocean life, destroying an environmental ecosystem that sustains human life. So your argument is that the planet will be fine is great, except some of us would like humanity to survive indefinitely. For that, we should do everything we can to protect the planet and it’s current occupants.
- revscat 3y agoThe repercussions have been foreseen. We are seeing it happen now, today, and the enemies of humanity/life cling to willful, even joyful, apocalypsm.
- lioeters 3y agoYes, because any form of social organization and collaboration, other than capitalism, must be communism. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
- marcosdumay 3y agoTo be fair, any form of human organization that is not commerce-based is heavy on the Faccism scale. It matters very little if it's communist or something else. But then, there are many ways to organize a society while keeping it commerce-based... Or maybe we manage to finally crack that nut some day and make a post-scarcity society. But on the short term "manage resources globally" heavily implies an anti-humane dictatorship.
- ChicagoDave 3y agoSo you think the Star Trek universe is impossible.
- lioeters 3y agoYes, because any form of social organization and collaboration, other than capitalism, must be fascism. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
- marcosdumay 3y agoHum... I assumed the GP was joking. You don't seem to be. Try finding at history some place where the society isn't fundamentally organized around commerce or under some heavy kind of authoritarianism.
- ChicagoDave 3y agoThen you’d be shocked to learn that Wisconsin had socialist politicians for over a hundred years, creating green spaces, building great infrastructure, public schools and colleges. Then Scott Walker shredded a bunch of it because socialism is bad.
- smolder 3y ago
- revscat 3y agoI don't care what it is if it means we destroy fossil fuel production.
- smolder 3y agoCommunism is one model of government among many. Do YOU think that intelligent management of global resources requires communism? Is the United nations a commune because the member countries cooperate in some way? Isn't there an area between "independent actors acting selfishly" and "communism"? I don't think they were implying communism. Which is good, because IME people on this forum can't have honest discussion or apply critical thinking in the vicinity of the subject. They start rhetoric-dumping and posturing and repeating tired arguments as if preventing thoughts about communism is their ticket to heaven. Sprinkle in a few posts positive-to-neutral on Marx to fuel the fire, and that's the recipe.
- lottin 3y ago> Do YOU think that intelligent management of global resources requires communism? I think a CENTRALISED management of the world's natural resources would require communism. Decentralised management is what we have now.
- smolder 3y agoThat's a bad definition of communism you're working with.
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