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IP addresses are supposed to be free! The RIRs are in the business of handing out addresses to whoever applies for them if the applicant can show that they hav

by teddyh 3y ago

IP addresses are supposed to be free! The RIRs are in the business of handing out addresses to whoever applies for them if the applicant can show that they have a reasonable use for the addresses. But as the IPv4 addresses eventually run out, AWS will then buy addresses directly from whoever has them. This is allowed, but a bit dubious, since if someone aren’t using their addresses, it would make more sense to return them to the RIR to be reassigned. But if AWS owns all the addresses, and nobody can get any more, it makes sense for AWS to start charging for the addresses. It would also make sense for AWS to halt and delay any IPv6 adoption, so we should watch for that.

chii 3y ago
> IP addresses are supposed to be free! just like the air is supposed to be free! In reality, nothing can be free. The cost was initially not being paid for, because initially there's just quite a bit of addresses, and there wouldnt have been any quarrels. I maintain that the world is being polluted because things aren't free. Imagine if every cubic inch of air, water and land is owned. You would not be allowed to pollute! You'd pay for your use of it!
- Sebguer 3y ago
  You've read The Moon is a Harsh Mistress too many times, and taken away the wrong lessons.
- BenjiWiebe 3y ago
  IP addresses aren't a physical object with a cost to produce them. No one is saying that maintaining the fiber optics and routers should be free though, that's why we pay ISPs.
pavs 3y ago
Not true at all you have apply for asn, you have pay for registration and ips seperately. Which needs to be renewed every year. Also you cant sell to anyone you want. You can transfer ownership but it goes through arin. Also few legal documents needed to register. https://www.arin.net/resources/fees/fee_schedule/#registration-services-plan https://www.arin.net/resources/fees/fee_schedule/#registrati...

by teddyh 3y ago

chii 3y ago

> IP addresses are supposed to be free! just like the air is supposed to be free! In reality, nothing can be free. The cost was initially not being paid for, because initially there's just quite a bit of addresses, and there wouldnt have been any quarrels. I maintain that the world is being polluted because things aren't free. Imagine if every cubic inch of air, water and land is owned. You would not be allowed to pollute! You'd pay for your use of it!

Sebguer 3y ago
You've read The Moon is a Harsh Mistress too many times, and taken away the wrong lessons.
BenjiWiebe 3y ago
IP addresses aren't a physical object with a cost to produce them. No one is saying that maintaining the fiber optics and routers should be free though, that's why we pay ISPs.

pavs 3y ago

Not true at all you have apply for asn, you have pay for registration and ips seperately. Which needs to be renewed every year. Also you cant sell to anyone you want. You can transfer ownership but it goes through arin. Also few legal documents needed to register. https://www.arin.net/resources/fees/fee_schedule/#registration-services-plan https://www.arin.net/resources/fees/fee_schedule/#registrati...