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Sure. Come back to us in twelve months. Either the company will have lost control of their spending and be sending 6-7 figure paychecks towards AWS. Or the ops

Sure. Come back to us in twelve months. Either the company will have lost control of their spending and be sending 6-7 figure paychecks towards AWS. Or the ops team will have clamped down on the accounts and now you have to go trough the same process to get EC2 instances and other cloud resources. Solving cultural problems with technology generally doesn't work.

taylodl 3y ago
It's been 4 years for our team? Maybe in 12 years things will be different, but this is where we are for now.
bpodgursky 3y ago
> Solving cultural problems with technology generally doesn't work. That's a ridiculous statement! Technology is the prime driver of culture! If you want to effect lasting change, the last thing you should do is try to convince people you are right. Set up the technical infrastructure to support the culture you want! In fact, it's the reverse — culture has practically no impact on technology once deployed.
- Aerbil313 3y ago
  Right. The society today is defined by technology. I like to call it "the smartphone society" instead of "the modern society" or whatever.
nilptr 3y ago
> Solving cultural problems with technology generally doesn't work. Solving cultural problems is indeed difficult but most of us are not going to be at a company long enough to give a shit. The name of they game is taking money off the table and the best way to do that is to deliver value quickly and then move to the next table.
- ur-whale 3y ago
  > The name of they game is taking money off the table and the best way to do that is to deliver value quickly and then move to the next table. I pity the fool who hired you. Or will hire you, for that matter.
throwawaysleep 3y ago
> Solving cultural problems with technology generally doesn't work. It does by getting rid of the people.
freedude 3y ago
Yes, it only pushes the inevitable lean battle further down the road and never solves anything. How do you eat an elephant? One bite at a time.

taylodl 3y ago

It's been 4 years for our team? Maybe in 12 years things will be different, but this is where we are for now.

bpodgursky 3y ago

> Solving cultural problems with technology generally doesn't work. That's a ridiculous statement! Technology is the prime driver of culture! If you want to effect lasting change, the last thing you should do is try to convince people you are right. Set up the technical infrastructure to support the culture you want! In fact, it's the reverse — culture has practically no impact on technology once deployed.

Aerbil313 3y ago
Right. The society today is defined by technology. I like to call it "the smartphone society" instead of "the modern society" or whatever.

nilptr 3y ago

> Solving cultural problems with technology generally doesn't work. Solving cultural problems is indeed difficult but most of us are not going to be at a company long enough to give a shit. The name of they game is taking money off the table and the best way to do that is to deliver value quickly and then move to the next table.

ur-whale 3y ago
> The name of they game is taking money off the table and the best way to do that is to deliver value quickly and then move to the next table. I pity the fool who hired you. Or will hire you, for that matter.

throwawaysleep 3y ago

> Solving cultural problems with technology generally doesn't work. It does by getting rid of the people.

freedude 3y ago

Yes, it only pushes the inevitable lean battle further down the road and never solves anything. How do you eat an elephant? One bite at a time.