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> I can't wait for it to happen, it's a low-cost way of producing even more music to listen to. I can't really understand this. I'm a DJ and a huge music nerd

> I can't wait for it to happen, it's a low-cost way of producing even more music to listen to. I can't really understand this. I'm a DJ and a huge music nerd, and I spend a lot of time every week discovering new music from the past 100 years and all over the world, and I'm constantly struck by _how much of it there is_. I've spent weeks just digging through psych-funk records from West Africa from the 1970s. How can you have the impression we're so desperate for more music that we need computer programs to generate it for us?

Pannoniae 3y ago
Yes but it's not really fungible. My favourite artist is Fats Waller and they don't make anything like that anymore. Most people are only interested in some category of music, not all of it.
cooper_ganglia 3y ago
Music is self-expression. I don’t always identify entirely with others. I always identify with my self. Having music generated for you on such a personalized level is an attractive prospect. I don’t think this replaces “100% organic, human-made” music, though. I think there’ll always be a reason to listen to music made by other people. But I think this changes the landscape of how and why people create music to begin with. It certainly will devalue existing music, since everyone has something they may prefer that they can generate instantly. I think generative AI is a terrible technology for artists who want to make money from their art, but in my personal opinion, I strive for a world where art isn’t a transaction, but a gift of human expression and connection. A world where art is appreciated for the emotion, stories, and ideas it conveys rather than the monetary value it holds. Generative AI might disrupt the traditional economic models in the art world, but it also opens up new opportunities for creative exploration and personal expression. It’s a challenging evolution, but one that could potentially democratize art, making it more accessible and personal than ever before! Bring on the Renaissance: Part 2!
- rideontime 3y ago
  > I strive for a world where art isn’t a transaction, but a gift of human expression and connection. A world where art is appreciated for the emotion, stories, and ideas it conveys rather than the monetary value it holds. In a world where nobody is compensated for their art, the only people making art will be the ones privileged enough to have the means to do so for free. I don't see how this leads to "Renaissance: Part 2."
- notmypenguin 3y ago
  I don’t agree with your definition of music. For me, as both a musician and a listener, music is communication between human beings via harmonic carrier waves. Using a machine to make word salad copies of existing communiques is literally just nonsense to me
- ckornby 3y ago
  it can't be a "gift of human expression and connection" if A) a machine creates it and B) nobody but you ever hears it this isn't democratizing art, and i would argue it has nothing to do with art. it is giving us an endless faucet of content, but not art.
- pessimizer 3y ago
  What's self-expressive about an algorithm that generates songs? Recorded music is the worst thing that happened to music.
- d0odk 3y ago
  if you want to express yourself musically, then learn how to play an instrument and compose music
emporas 3y ago
There is a lot of human music for sure, great music from all eras, but just the other day i generated a song which was pure crystal harp. So, how many songs of crystal harp are out there? 1000 all n all? 10.000 maybe? Now i can generate one thousand crystal harp songs per day.
- lm28469 3y ago
  What if I generated a music of 12 billion farts, how many asses are out there ? 7 billions all in all maybe ? Now I can generate one billions of fart songs per day
lm28469 3y ago
> I can't really understand this I came to understand a very large portion of the population just wants content, any type, any quality, to fill the void. They'll consume anything as long as it's new. Content to fill the empty vessels we became. Just look around, mainstream music, movies, podcasts, news, it's mostly mediocre, but it goes real fast, you get new mediocrity delivered every day
IAmGraydon 3y ago
Musician here. While I agree with you that there is a nearly endless heap of music to dig through, I think it's interesting to think about the possibility of hearing genre crossovers and styles that don't yet exist. As an aside, a lot of musicians seem to dislike this kind of technology, but I never saw music as a competition. I don't care if some inexperienced kid is generating bangers from his bedroom even though he can't play a single instrument. It's just something else to listen to. I write music for me.
janalsncm 3y ago
It’s the same reason we have 250 Marvel movies that all tell the same story. People want the same, but different. They don’t give a damn about human creativity for the most part.

Pannoniae 3y ago

Yes but it's not really fungible. My favourite artist is Fats Waller and they don't make anything like that anymore. Most people are only interested in some category of music, not all of it.

cooper_ganglia 3y ago

Music is self-expression. I don’t always identify entirely with others. I always identify with my self. Having music generated for you on such a personalized level is an attractive prospect. I don’t think this replaces “100% organic, human-made” music, though. I think there’ll always be a reason to listen to music made by other people. But I think this changes the landscape of how and why people create music to begin with. It certainly will devalue existing music, since everyone has something they may prefer that they can generate instantly. I think generative AI is a terrible technology for artists who want to make money from their art, but in my personal opinion, I strive for a world where art isn’t a transaction, but a gift of human expression and connection. A world where art is appreciated for the emotion, stories, and ideas it conveys rather than the monetary value it holds. Generative AI might disrupt the traditional economic models in the art world, but it also opens up new opportunities for creative exploration and personal expression. It’s a challenging evolution, but one that could potentially democratize art, making it more accessible and personal than ever before! Bring on the Renaissance: Part 2!

rideontime 3y ago
> I strive for a world where art isn’t a transaction, but a gift of human expression and connection. A world where art is appreciated for the emotion, stories, and ideas it conveys rather than the monetary value it holds. In a world where nobody is compensated for their art, the only people making art will be the ones privileged enough to have the means to do so for free. I don't see how this leads to "Renaissance: Part 2."
notmypenguin 3y ago
I don’t agree with your definition of music. For me, as both a musician and a listener, music is communication between human beings via harmonic carrier waves. Using a machine to make word salad copies of existing communiques is literally just nonsense to me
ckornby 3y ago
it can't be a "gift of human expression and connection" if A) a machine creates it and B) nobody but you ever hears it this isn't democratizing art, and i would argue it has nothing to do with art. it is giving us an endless faucet of content, but not art.
pessimizer 3y ago
What's self-expressive about an algorithm that generates songs? Recorded music is the worst thing that happened to music.
d0odk 3y ago
if you want to express yourself musically, then learn how to play an instrument and compose music

emporas 3y ago

There is a lot of human music for sure, great music from all eras, but just the other day i generated a song which was pure crystal harp. So, how many songs of crystal harp are out there? 1000 all n all? 10.000 maybe? Now i can generate one thousand crystal harp songs per day.

lm28469 3y ago
What if I generated a music of 12 billion farts, how many asses are out there ? 7 billions all in all maybe ? Now I can generate one billions of fart songs per day

lm28469 3y ago

> I can't really understand this I came to understand a very large portion of the population just wants content, any type, any quality, to fill the void. They'll consume anything as long as it's new. Content to fill the empty vessels we became. Just look around, mainstream music, movies, podcasts, news, it's mostly mediocre, but it goes real fast, you get new mediocrity delivered every day

IAmGraydon 3y ago

Musician here. While I agree with you that there is a nearly endless heap of music to dig through, I think it's interesting to think about the possibility of hearing genre crossovers and styles that don't yet exist. As an aside, a lot of musicians seem to dislike this kind of technology, but I never saw music as a competition. I don't care if some inexperienced kid is generating bangers from his bedroom even though he can't play a single instrument. It's just something else to listen to. I write music for me.

janalsncm 3y ago

It’s the same reason we have 250 Marvel movies that all tell the same story. People want the same, but different. They don’t give a damn about human creativity for the most part.