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The two are not the same. Before the prohibition, alcohol had been legal for hundreds of years, socially accepted and permeated the culture. Can't say the same

The two are not the same. Before the prohibition, alcohol had been legal for hundreds of years, socially accepted and permeated the culture. Can't say the same about weed.

jrflowers 3y ago
When did humans start using cannabis?
- The_Colonel 3y ago
  In my (European) country around the 1990s and got common only 15 years ago or so. I guess you could find it here and there earlier than that, but it was quite rare.
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  - dragonwriter 3y ago
    > > When did humans start using cannabis? > In my (European) country [...] Your country, and even Europe as a whole, is not the same thing as humanity. Documented pharmacological uses seems to be at least since 2,800 BC [0], cultivation seems to be at least another 5,000 years or so before that. [0] https://www.sydney.edu.au/lambert/medicinal-cannabis/history-of-cannabis.html https://www.sydney.edu.au/lambert/medicinal-cannabis/history...
    - robertlagrant 3y ago
      > Your country, and even Europe as a whole, is not the same thing as humanity. What a strange thing to say, when the previous commenter wasn't saying the opposite. They were citing when weed became legal, socially accepted, and permeating of their culture, which is the topic.
      - jrflowers 3y ago
        I interpreted “In my (European) country around the 1990s and got common only 15 years ago or so.” as “humans in my country started using cannabis in the 1990s for the first time”. Bringing up the larger history of cannabis use in Europe is a valid point of discussion, as it is very likely that at some point in history it was also legal and ubiquitous. Edit: As an aside, this whole discussion began with on the topic of prohibition in regard to alcohol, which for a lot of people that term specifically refers to a period in the United States during the 1920s-1933. I’m not sure if the colonel was referring to a different European prohibition or how the rise in ubiquity of cannabis in the 90s has to do with their initial point, if at all.
        The_Colonel 3y ago
        > “humans in my country started using cannabis in the 1990s for the first time”. For my point it's irrelevant if people used cannabis thousands of years ago and then stopped. My point is that weed had no presence in culture or social acceptance pre-1990. Weed is therefore much easier to ban than alcohol and not comparable to the difficulty of banning alcohol. I don't know the history of weed in US, but my guess is that it's roughly similar.
- dekhn 3y ago
  There is physical evidence back to about 2500-3000 years ago. But people were brewing beer ~6000 years ago.
croes 3y ago
What about tobacco?

The two are not the same. Before the prohibition, alcohol had been legal for hundreds of years, socially accepted and permeated the culture. Can't say the same about weed.

jrflowers 3y ago

When did humans start using cannabis?

The_Colonel 3y ago
In my (European) country around the 1990s and got common only 15 years ago or so. I guess you could find it here and there earlier than that, but it was quite rare.
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- dragonwriter 3y ago
  > > When did humans start using cannabis? > In my (European) country [...] Your country, and even Europe as a whole, is not the same thing as humanity. Documented pharmacological uses seems to be at least since 2,800 BC [0], cultivation seems to be at least another 5,000 years or so before that. [0] https://www.sydney.edu.au/lambert/medicinal-cannabis/history-of-cannabis.html https://www.sydney.edu.au/lambert/medicinal-cannabis/history...
  - robertlagrant 3y ago
    > Your country, and even Europe as a whole, is not the same thing as humanity. What a strange thing to say, when the previous commenter wasn't saying the opposite. They were citing when weed became legal, socially accepted, and permeating of their culture, which is the topic.
    - jrflowers 3y ago
      I interpreted “In my (European) country around the 1990s and got common only 15 years ago or so.” as “humans in my country started using cannabis in the 1990s for the first time”. Bringing up the larger history of cannabis use in Europe is a valid point of discussion, as it is very likely that at some point in history it was also legal and ubiquitous. Edit: As an aside, this whole discussion began with on the topic of prohibition in regard to alcohol, which for a lot of people that term specifically refers to a period in the United States during the 1920s-1933. I’m not sure if the colonel was referring to a different European prohibition or how the rise in ubiquity of cannabis in the 90s has to do with their initial point, if at all.
      - The_Colonel 3y ago
        > “humans in my country started using cannabis in the 1990s for the first time”. For my point it's irrelevant if people used cannabis thousands of years ago and then stopped. My point is that weed had no presence in culture or social acceptance pre-1990. Weed is therefore much easier to ban than alcohol and not comparable to the difficulty of banning alcohol. I don't know the history of weed in US, but my guess is that it's roughly similar.
dekhn 3y ago
There is physical evidence back to about 2500-3000 years ago. But people were brewing beer ~6000 years ago.

croes 3y ago

What about tobacco?