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I can agree with this. Everywhere you look in windows you have Microsoft screaming EDGE. It's not enough to use their OS, Email client, Office apps, and gaming

I can agree with this. Everywhere you look in windows you have Microsoft screaming EDGE. It's not enough to use their OS, Email client, Office apps, and gaming system. No we have to use their browser too.

bundie 3y ago
That's true. I switched to Linux Mint on my Latitude E7450 and the experience so far has been great. The only downside is that I cannot hibernate the system, which means I have to shut down every damn time.
- beardyw 3y ago
  It seems to be caused by inconsistencies in the power handling hardware. I now have a laptop which came with Linux installed and it's the first time it's worked!
  - hef19898 3y ago
    I run Ubuntu on Lenovo Extreme Gen 2, and hiberbation just works fine (I don't rember if I did some BIOS tweaking so). Battery consumption during hibernation seems to be higher than Windows, but that's about it.
    - vladvasiliu 3y ago
      > Battery consumption during hibernation seems to be higher than Windows, but that's about it. Are you actually hibernating it, or doing the "hybrid sleep" thing, which only sleeps and then hibernates? In my case (Arch) the default for hybrid sleep is to keep it in sleep state for quite a while, whereas windows shuts down fairly quickly when unplugged. Actual hibernation is shutting the computer completely off, so I'd be curious to know how one OS could have a different power consumption than another.
      - hef19898 3y ago
        Ah, that could be it... But then I only used standby and shutdown under Windows as well anyway...
        vladvasiliu 3y ago
        I'm not a regular windows user, so I may be wrong, but it's my understanding that, by default, windows will keep the computer in "sleep" mode if it's plugged in, and pretty quickly put it in hibernate if it's asleep and unplugged. The way I found out is this one time I left work with my laptop under windows and asleep.When I arrived home an hour later, it had to go through the full bios setup (which you can't miss since it's ridiculously slow) and then it went and booted Linux (it's the default boot setup). When I rebooted back to windows, I found my previous stuff open. Since this happened again a few times, I figured it was normal behavior. My default Linux install won't automatically hibernate while asleep as long as the battery is above some threshold, like 10%. And since the computer doesn't support S3, only "modern standby", it will chew through the battery like no tomorrow.
    - MayeulC 3y ago
      The system is not supposed to draw any power while hibernating (suspend-to-disk). Maybe you're thinking of suspend-to-ram (sleep)? To diagnose hibernation issues, I'd double check the kernel command line (resume=<disk or inode>) argument. That it's still the right location.
- jitl 3y ago
  How is that great? I would rather run Mint in a full screen VM under windows and have hibernation on a laptop.
- theonlybutlet 3y ago
  Throwing this out there, perhaps you've tried already, but maybe it'd help. Installing TLP?
TheRealSteel 3y ago
Don't forget "We ran into a problem so we changed your default PDF program to Microsoft Edge" that just happens to conveniently occur
- Already__Taken 3y ago
  as far as i can tell Teams will not open links in the default browser it's hard coded to edge://
  - ta1243 3y ago
    The linux client is hard coded to whatever it's builting browser is (some chromium bit?) It's a right pain as it means when I get an authentication popup I can't use my integrated password manager like I can with say Slack's authentication popups. (yes I know that integrating browsers with pw managers are bad)
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  - atraac 3y ago
    It's the worst software I've ever used, but it does open links in default browser - Firefox in my case, without any issues.
- vladvasiliu 3y ago
  At this point, I think they're just doing it automatically. I only rarely use windows and didn't bother to install another browser, yet I still sometimes get the "welcome to edge / make it your default browser" crap.
TacticalCoder 3y ago
> No we have to use their browser too. I switched my mother-in-law (nearly 70 years old) to a Chromebook and I made my SO switch her little PME from Windows to Ubuntu more than a year ago and she has zero issue. As for the rest of my family, they kept calling me on the phone over the years with Windows issue and... I made them all buy Mac computers. Life is better without Microsoft.
- bloopernova 3y ago
  PME?
  - orwin 3y ago
    Probably a French slip up, it mean 'Petites and Moyennes Entreprises' (small and medium companies) and in France is a colloquialism that doesn't really have an English translation? I'd say 'small business', but basically it mean it's a company with more than 2 millions and less than 50 millions revenue (I think you also have an upper and lower limit of workers like two or three hundreds, but the real limits are revenue, especially in our hardware/software fields)
    - darksfall 3y ago
      "SME"? "Small to Medium Enterprise". Seems almost as close as you could get.

bundie 3y ago

That's true. I switched to Linux Mint on my Latitude E7450 and the experience so far has been great. The only downside is that I cannot hibernate the system, which means I have to shut down every damn time.

beardyw 3y ago
It seems to be caused by inconsistencies in the power handling hardware. I now have a laptop which came with Linux installed and it's the first time it's worked!
- hef19898 3y ago
  I run Ubuntu on Lenovo Extreme Gen 2, and hiberbation just works fine (I don't rember if I did some BIOS tweaking so). Battery consumption during hibernation seems to be higher than Windows, but that's about it.
  - vladvasiliu 3y ago
    > Battery consumption during hibernation seems to be higher than Windows, but that's about it. Are you actually hibernating it, or doing the "hybrid sleep" thing, which only sleeps and then hibernates? In my case (Arch) the default for hybrid sleep is to keep it in sleep state for quite a while, whereas windows shuts down fairly quickly when unplugged. Actual hibernation is shutting the computer completely off, so I'd be curious to know how one OS could have a different power consumption than another.
    - hef19898 3y ago
      Ah, that could be it... But then I only used standby and shutdown under Windows as well anyway...
      - vladvasiliu 3y ago
        I'm not a regular windows user, so I may be wrong, but it's my understanding that, by default, windows will keep the computer in "sleep" mode if it's plugged in, and pretty quickly put it in hibernate if it's asleep and unplugged. The way I found out is this one time I left work with my laptop under windows and asleep.When I arrived home an hour later, it had to go through the full bios setup (which you can't miss since it's ridiculously slow) and then it went and booted Linux (it's the default boot setup). When I rebooted back to windows, I found my previous stuff open. Since this happened again a few times, I figured it was normal behavior. My default Linux install won't automatically hibernate while asleep as long as the battery is above some threshold, like 10%. And since the computer doesn't support S3, only "modern standby", it will chew through the battery like no tomorrow.
  - MayeulC 3y ago
    The system is not supposed to draw any power while hibernating (suspend-to-disk). Maybe you're thinking of suspend-to-ram (sleep)? To diagnose hibernation issues, I'd double check the kernel command line (resume=<disk or inode>) argument. That it's still the right location.
jitl 3y ago
How is that great? I would rather run Mint in a full screen VM under windows and have hibernation on a laptop.
theonlybutlet 3y ago
Throwing this out there, perhaps you've tried already, but maybe it'd help. Installing TLP?

TheRealSteel 3y ago

Don't forget "We ran into a problem so we changed your default PDF program to Microsoft Edge" that just happens to conveniently occur

Already__Taken 3y ago
as far as i can tell Teams will not open links in the default browser it's hard coded to edge://
- ta1243 3y ago
  The linux client is hard coded to whatever it's builting browser is (some chromium bit?) It's a right pain as it means when I get an authentication popup I can't use my integrated password manager like I can with say Slack's authentication popups. (yes I know that integrating browsers with pw managers are bad)
  - deleted 3y ago
    [deleted]
- atraac 3y ago
  It's the worst software I've ever used, but it does open links in default browser - Firefox in my case, without any issues.
vladvasiliu 3y ago
At this point, I think they're just doing it automatically. I only rarely use windows and didn't bother to install another browser, yet I still sometimes get the "welcome to edge / make it your default browser" crap.

TacticalCoder 3y ago

> No we have to use their browser too. I switched my mother-in-law (nearly 70 years old) to a Chromebook and I made my SO switch her little PME from Windows to Ubuntu more than a year ago and she has zero issue. As for the rest of my family, they kept calling me on the phone over the years with Windows issue and... I made them all buy Mac computers. Life is better without Microsoft.

bloopernova 3y ago
PME?
- orwin 3y ago
  Probably a French slip up, it mean 'Petites and Moyennes Entreprises' (small and medium companies) and in France is a colloquialism that doesn't really have an English translation? I'd say 'small business', but basically it mean it's a company with more than 2 millions and less than 50 millions revenue (I think you also have an upper and lower limit of workers like two or three hundreds, but the real limits are revenue, especially in our hardware/software fields)
  - darksfall 3y ago
    "SME"? "Small to Medium Enterprise". Seems almost as close as you could get.