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> The government is the people The government is the majority. > Time and time again people vote for services even if it means higher taxes (especially on the

> The government is the people The government is the majority. > Time and time again people vote for services even if it means higher taxes (especially on the rich and on corporations). This is because some things don't really work if they're only funded by individuals. Uh, I have a simpler explanation. People vote for things that are good for themselves and come up with contrived arguments for why that's moral. > To turn your point around, can you point to any large nation with low taxes and good outcomes? This is overly simplistic. > Do you have good examples to the contrary, like not one-offs but large, complex societies working via voluntary contribution alone? Have I advocated for this? > Is your argument that corporate services would outperform government services? I have not made that argument once. I've made the argument that government spending is wasteful. Unsurprisingly the government choosing private corporations to execute government services is also wasteful. It seems you think I'm a libertarian because I don't like giving my money away? > complex societies working via voluntary contribution alone? I'm glad you think society is complex, so do I. Can you give examples of large completely centralized successful societies?

thfuran 3y ago
>> Do you have good examples to the contrary, like not one-offs but large, complex societies working via voluntary contribution alone? >Have I advocated for this? So, you are advocating for the collapse of society? You don't want a society that's functional without taxes but also don't want taxes?
camgunz 3y ago
Well, I'm a little disappointed but not surprised that your posts are more "taxes are immoral" arguments without any substance about how we're supposed to do things without them. Even this latest post is like small quibbles and straw men about completely centralized societies. Feel free to round out your position on how we're supposed to run a society without taxes or just how we can spend money more "competently", but I think this is just another paper libertarian argument here.
swores 3y ago
When you have to resort to refusing to engage in an actual debate and just throwing questions back to confuse the conversation you're no longer arguing in good faith - though it's not clear to me you ever were.

thfuran 3y ago

>> Do you have good examples to the contrary, like not one-offs but large, complex societies working via voluntary contribution alone? >Have I advocated for this? So, you are advocating for the collapse of society? You don't want a society that's functional without taxes but also don't want taxes?

camgunz 3y ago

Well, I'm a little disappointed but not surprised that your posts are more "taxes are immoral" arguments without any substance about how we're supposed to do things without them. Even this latest post is like small quibbles and straw men about completely centralized societies. Feel free to round out your position on how we're supposed to run a society without taxes or just how we can spend money more "competently", but I think this is just another paper libertarian argument here.

swores 3y ago

When you have to resort to refusing to engage in an actual debate and just throwing questions back to confuse the conversation you're no longer arguing in good faith - though it's not clear to me you ever were.