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Do you know the last successful, citizen-only driven revolution? I would guess the french revolution ~1790 and it was a bloodbath. Today, the military technolog

Do you know the last successful, citizen-only driven revolution? I would guess the french revolution ~1790 and it was a bloodbath. Today, the military technology has extended the power gap so much, that chopping heads off is no option for eg. north koreans without support from the outside. I think a violent revolution would only tighten the surveilance state.

willcipriano 3y ago
The ven diagram of people who tell me that we can't possibly overthrow the government contrasted with people who say January 6th was a threat to democracy is essentially a circle.
- throwawayqqq11 3y ago
  Disagree x 2. overthrowing the goverment via democratic means is an option too. The circle of ppl seeing the bogaloos as idiots, preferably nowhere near any position of power is much larger. Very distorted protortions.
- realityking 3y ago
  I don‘t think those two statements are at odds at all. Consider that the Jan 6th insurrections were trying to keep the then current president, the commander-in-chief of the armed forces, in power. That‘s about as far from a citizen‘s only revolution as it could be.
  - mistermann 3y ago
    FFS, change the intent. What is it about this topic that renders people unable to think rationally? Imagine if software was written with this quality of thinking.
    - PrimeMcFly 3y ago
      > Imagine if software was written with this quality of thinking. Windows 95 startup music plays
      - mistermann 3y ago
        One difference: Windows improved.
- camgunz 3y ago
  We overthrow the government every two years.
prepend 3y ago
I guess it depends on what you mean by citizen-only and successful. How about Bolshevik? Or Cuba? Or Vietnam? Or China? If you consider the French Revolution successful (that didn’t work out so well) then I guess you can say the Sudan revolution was successful as we now have South Sudan. Or Libya was successful as Qaddafi is still dead.

willcipriano 3y ago

The ven diagram of people who tell me that we can't possibly overthrow the government contrasted with people who say January 6th was a threat to democracy is essentially a circle.

throwawayqqq11 3y ago
Disagree x 2. overthrowing the goverment via democratic means is an option too. The circle of ppl seeing the bogaloos as idiots, preferably nowhere near any position of power is much larger. Very distorted protortions.
realityking 3y ago
I don‘t think those two statements are at odds at all. Consider that the Jan 6th insurrections were trying to keep the then current president, the commander-in-chief of the armed forces, in power. That‘s about as far from a citizen‘s only revolution as it could be.
- mistermann 3y ago
  FFS, change the intent. What is it about this topic that renders people unable to think rationally? Imagine if software was written with this quality of thinking.
  - PrimeMcFly 3y ago
    > Imagine if software was written with this quality of thinking. Windows 95 startup music plays
    - mistermann 3y ago
      One difference: Windows improved.
camgunz 3y ago
We overthrow the government every two years.

prepend 3y ago

I guess it depends on what you mean by citizen-only and successful. How about Bolshevik? Or Cuba? Or Vietnam? Or China? If you consider the French Revolution successful (that didn’t work out so well) then I guess you can say the Sudan revolution was successful as we now have South Sudan. Or Libya was successful as Qaddafi is still dead.