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Not really. Coke has a lot of caffeine which makes it a lot more addictive.

myshpa 3y ago
And salt to make you consume more, and acids to destroy your teeth, and sugar for health problems or artificial sweeteners to damage your dna, and microplastics ...
- gruez 3y ago
  >And salt to make you consume more Milk literally has more sodium.
  - myshpa 3y ago
    And microplastics too, and sugars, and puss, and blood, pesticides, estrogens ... and? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcN7SGGoCNI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcN7SGGoCNI
    - gruez 3y ago
      If a natural product that isn't obviously salty has 3x the sodium, then it's probably not worth worrying about. Besides, it's 3% of DV for a 20oz bottle. You'd have to drink a hilariously high amount for the negative effects of salt to kick in.
      - myshpa 3y ago
        But i'm not talking about health effects of salt in Coca Cola ... I'm questioning the reason why it's included at all. As you said ... it's not much, you won't even notice it. So the reason it's there is to increase consumption (to keep you thirsty and to tolerate more sugar) and addiction. https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/soda-addiction https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/soda-addiction Because soda contains several potentially habit-forming substances like caffeine, sodium, and sugar or artificial sweeteners, it’s easier to become dependent on soda than you might think
        gruez 3y ago
        >I'm questioning the reason why it's included at all. Because it makes the final product taste better. You can reframe that to mean something nefarious (ie. "it's there is to increase [...] addiction"), but fundamentally it's not any different than you adding salt when you're cooking. >it's not much, you won't even notice it >Because soda contains several potentially habit-forming substances like [...] sodium Let me get this straight. You're claiming that "you won't even notice it" yet it's also "habit-forming"? What's the mechanism by which drinking 0.2g of salt per 20oz bottle gets you addicted?
        myshpa 3y ago
        The link I've posted has links to sources for their claim (there are more): https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/24829986/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/24829986/ A Classic Innate Behavior, Sodium Appetite, Is Driven by Hypothalamic Gene-Regulatory Programs Previously Linked to Addiction and Reward https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29673924/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29673924/ Food additives, food and the concept of 'food addiction': Is stimulation of the brain reward circuit by food sufficient to trigger addiction?
        gruez 3y ago
        > The link I've posted has links to sources for their claim (there are more): I don't doubt that salty foods in general are delicious and make people want to eat more. I'm doubting whether the effect applies specifically for coke, which only has 0.2g it per 20oz bottle. What you're doing is like looking at a car crash and concluding that it's caused by alcohol because the driver ate some bread[1] before driving. [1] https://www.scienceabc.com/pure-sciences/does-your-bread-contain-alcohol.html https://www.scienceabc.com/pure-sciences/does-your-bread-con...
        myshpa 3y ago
        > I'm doubting whether the effect applies specifically for coke I'm not pretending I'm the expert. > What you're doing I'm cited the source. > it's caused by alcohol because the driver ate some bread Don't tell our politicians ... we have 0% limit.
- ImPostingOnHN 3y ago
  yep, that's why they put the acids in, to destroy your teeth
  - gruez 3y ago
    And not because... it tastes good? What does coca-cola and pepsico have to gain from destroying people's teeth?
    - myshpa 3y ago
      It's not important why ... just that it does. Coca Cola (etc.) has 2.37-3.10pH, and the acidity is from phosphoric acid. https://www.foodchamps.org/is-coca-cola-acidic/ https://www.foodchamps.org/is-coca-cola-acidic/ "Due to their high sugar and acid content, over-consumption of these drinks is bad for your health and can aggravate symptoms of acid reflux." "It can also cause bones and tooth enamel to erode, creating the perfect conditions for the development of cavities."
    - ImPostingOnHN 3y ago
      I mean, yeah, you're right, I was being sarcastic Obviously they don't put it in to destroy your teeth, and despite what the other replier said, it _is_ important why (in reality: better flavor), which is _why_ they went through the effort of falsely attributing why it's done (in fantasy: to destroy teeth) p.s., phosphoric acid is delicious, that's why people like products with it in it. Back in the days of soda fountains, they'd add it in! Now it's mixed into cocktails, sometimes with various other acids (citric, tartaric, etc)
varjag 3y ago
Coke has caffeine content matching that of tea.
- Supermancho 3y ago
  https://www.caffeineinformer.com/the-caffeine-database https://www.caffeineinformer.com/the-caffeine-database Often, tea has far more. eg Coke Classic 2.8 to Black Tea 5.2
- objektif 3y ago
  So? Tea is also addictive.

And salt to make you consume more, and acids to destroy your teeth, and sugar for health problems or artificial sweeteners to damage your dna, and microplastics ...

gruez 3y ago
>And salt to make you consume more Milk literally has more sodium.
- myshpa 3y ago
  And microplastics too, and sugars, and puss, and blood, pesticides, estrogens ... and? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcN7SGGoCNI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcN7SGGoCNI
  - gruez 3y ago
    If a natural product that isn't obviously salty has 3x the sodium, then it's probably not worth worrying about. Besides, it's 3% of DV for a 20oz bottle. You'd have to drink a hilariously high amount for the negative effects of salt to kick in.
    - myshpa 3y ago
      But i'm not talking about health effects of salt in Coca Cola ... I'm questioning the reason why it's included at all. As you said ... it's not much, you won't even notice it. So the reason it's there is to increase consumption (to keep you thirsty and to tolerate more sugar) and addiction. https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/soda-addiction https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/soda-addiction Because soda contains several potentially habit-forming substances like caffeine, sodium, and sugar or artificial sweeteners, it’s easier to become dependent on soda than you might think
      - gruez 3y ago
        >I'm questioning the reason why it's included at all. Because it makes the final product taste better. You can reframe that to mean something nefarious (ie. "it's there is to increase [...] addiction"), but fundamentally it's not any different than you adding salt when you're cooking. >it's not much, you won't even notice it >Because soda contains several potentially habit-forming substances like [...] sodium Let me get this straight. You're claiming that "you won't even notice it" yet it's also "habit-forming"? What's the mechanism by which drinking 0.2g of salt per 20oz bottle gets you addicted?
        myshpa 3y ago
        The link I've posted has links to sources for their claim (there are more): https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/24829986/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/24829986/ A Classic Innate Behavior, Sodium Appetite, Is Driven by Hypothalamic Gene-Regulatory Programs Previously Linked to Addiction and Reward https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29673924/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29673924/ Food additives, food and the concept of 'food addiction': Is stimulation of the brain reward circuit by food sufficient to trigger addiction?
        gruez 3y ago
        > The link I've posted has links to sources for their claim (there are more): I don't doubt that salty foods in general are delicious and make people want to eat more. I'm doubting whether the effect applies specifically for coke, which only has 0.2g it per 20oz bottle. What you're doing is like looking at a car crash and concluding that it's caused by alcohol because the driver ate some bread[1] before driving. [1] https://www.scienceabc.com/pure-sciences/does-your-bread-contain-alcohol.html https://www.scienceabc.com/pure-sciences/does-your-bread-con...
        myshpa 3y ago
        > I'm doubting whether the effect applies specifically for coke I'm not pretending I'm the expert. > What you're doing I'm cited the source. > it's caused by alcohol because the driver ate some bread Don't tell our politicians ... we have 0% limit.
ImPostingOnHN 3y ago
yep, that's why they put the acids in, to destroy your teeth
- gruez 3y ago
  And not because... it tastes good? What does coca-cola and pepsico have to gain from destroying people's teeth?
  - myshpa 3y ago
    It's not important why ... just that it does. Coca Cola (etc.) has 2.37-3.10pH, and the acidity is from phosphoric acid. https://www.foodchamps.org/is-coca-cola-acidic/ https://www.foodchamps.org/is-coca-cola-acidic/ "Due to their high sugar and acid content, over-consumption of these drinks is bad for your health and can aggravate symptoms of acid reflux." "It can also cause bones and tooth enamel to erode, creating the perfect conditions for the development of cavities."
  - ImPostingOnHN 3y ago
    I mean, yeah, you're right, I was being sarcastic Obviously they don't put it in to destroy your teeth, and despite what the other replier said, it _is_ important why (in reality: better flavor), which is _why_ they went through the effort of falsely attributing why it's done (in fantasy: to destroy teeth) p.s., phosphoric acid is delicious, that's why people like products with it in it. Back in the days of soda fountains, they'd add it in! Now it's mixed into cocktails, sometimes with various other acids (citric, tartaric, etc)

varjag 3y ago

Coke has caffeine content matching that of tea.

Supermancho 3y ago
https://www.caffeineinformer.com/the-caffeine-database https://www.caffeineinformer.com/the-caffeine-database Often, tea has far more. eg Coke Classic 2.8 to Black Tea 5.2
objektif 3y ago
So? Tea is also addictive.