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https://www.wired.com/2017/01/russia-hacked-older-republican-emails-fbi-director-says/ https://www.wired.com/2017/01/russia-hacked-older-republican... Both thi

by luma 3y ago

https://www.wired.com/2017/01/russia-hacked-older-republican-emails-fbi-director-says/ https://www.wired.com/2017/01/russia-hacked-older-republican... Both things happened around the same time, both sourced to Russian hackers. It is unknown if Assange was offered the RNC emails for release. It is pretty clear this was done for political ends to aid Donald Trump, less clear if Assange was personally "in" on it.

isaacremuant 3y ago
If the New york times or new York post receive documents and they publish ones and not others with a partisan motive they're still not criminals. So this is a typical bullshit thing for democrat-party aligned people for whom the ends justifies the means and there's no bad tactics, only bad targets. The very same types that tell you "twitter files are partisan nothing burgers" and that people like Matt Taibbi are "right wingers". I don't care what the FBI tries to pull to muddy the waters. Or the government toppling CIA, for that matter. Assange has been pursued and illegally imprisoned for exposing corruption and doing journalism, nothing more.
- freshpots 3y ago
  You got one thing right: "twitter files are partisan nothing burgers"
  - isaacremuant 3y ago
    You just exposed yourself as a partisan hack. Glenn greenwald and taibbi are not republican sycophants but true left but, just like criticizing Hillary made you "russian" or trumpist, seeing the truth about censorship makes you "right winger/republican". Edit: hypocrisy at its finest: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36927153 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36927153 It's so hilarious. You can't even come up with an original dismissal. It's the same old tired labels. Try harder.
    - freshpots 3y ago
      You are the one being partisan everywhere on this site. Anything you can bring politics into, and even where you shouldn't, you do.
      - isaacremuant 3y ago
        you're stalking me with your bad takes and when you get actual debate you run. https://thehill.com/opinion/civil-rights/4125603-facebook-files-show-bidens-administration-even-targeted-jokes-for-censorship/ https://thehill.com/opinion/civil-rights/4125603-facebook-fi... fun how the nothingburger even applies to jokes. Begone, troll.
        freshpots 3y ago
        Firstly, I am not trolling nor have I done anything to justify your behavior, read the rules around here: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html " Be kind. Don't be snarky. Converse curiously; don't cross-examine. Edit out swipes." "Comments should get more thoughtful and substantive, not less, as a topic gets more divisive." Secondly, there is no debate here. I am merely witnessing the equivalent of a person screaming uncontrollably for no reason at an intersection in a big city.
mariusor 3y ago
I read that the RNC "maybe" was hacked, not that WikiLeaks received anything. As a matter of fact WikiLeaks is mentioned nowhere in the article. Are you making the conjecture here that hacked also implies leaked? If the theory that the hacks and the leaks of the DNC documents come from Russia to sabotage Clinton's chances holds water, it would make more sense that the Russian sources release to WikiLeaks only the dirt on the DNC, doesn't it?

by luma 3y ago

isaacremuant 3y ago

If the New york times or new York post receive documents and they publish ones and not others with a partisan motive they're still not criminals. So this is a typical bullshit thing for democrat-party aligned people for whom the ends justifies the means and there's no bad tactics, only bad targets. The very same types that tell you "twitter files are partisan nothing burgers" and that people like Matt Taibbi are "right wingers". I don't care what the FBI tries to pull to muddy the waters. Or the government toppling CIA, for that matter. Assange has been pursued and illegally imprisoned for exposing corruption and doing journalism, nothing more.

freshpots 3y ago
You got one thing right: "twitter files are partisan nothing burgers"
- isaacremuant 3y ago
  You just exposed yourself as a partisan hack. Glenn greenwald and taibbi are not republican sycophants but true left but, just like criticizing Hillary made you "russian" or trumpist, seeing the truth about censorship makes you "right winger/republican". Edit: hypocrisy at its finest: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36927153 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36927153 It's so hilarious. You can't even come up with an original dismissal. It's the same old tired labels. Try harder.
  - freshpots 3y ago
    You are the one being partisan everywhere on this site. Anything you can bring politics into, and even where you shouldn't, you do.
    - isaacremuant 3y ago
      you're stalking me with your bad takes and when you get actual debate you run. https://thehill.com/opinion/civil-rights/4125603-facebook-files-show-bidens-administration-even-targeted-jokes-for-censorship/ https://thehill.com/opinion/civil-rights/4125603-facebook-fi... fun how the nothingburger even applies to jokes. Begone, troll.
      - freshpots 3y ago
        Firstly, I am not trolling nor have I done anything to justify your behavior, read the rules around here: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html " Be kind. Don't be snarky. Converse curiously; don't cross-examine. Edit out swipes." "Comments should get more thoughtful and substantive, not less, as a topic gets more divisive." Secondly, there is no debate here. I am merely witnessing the equivalent of a person screaming uncontrollably for no reason at an intersection in a big city.

mariusor 3y ago

I read that the RNC "maybe" was hacked, not that WikiLeaks received anything. As a matter of fact WikiLeaks is mentioned nowhere in the article. Are you making the conjecture here that hacked also implies leaked? If the theory that the hacks and the leaks of the DNC documents come from Russia to sabotage Clinton's chances holds water, it would make more sense that the Russian sources release to WikiLeaks only the dirt on the DNC, doesn't it?