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Matrix is a very viable chat protocol: I have been using it now full-time for some months. I even bridged my whatsapp and telegram accounts so that I exclusivel

Matrix is a very viable chat protocol: I have been using it now full-time for some months. I even bridged my whatsapp and telegram accounts so that I exclusively use the matrix clients on my phone and desktop without hiccups. I find that I can use it both for IRL friend groups á la whatsapp, and for online "rooms" á la IRC/discord/slack (but with history, which IRC is lacking).

jacooper 3y ago
How do you deal with the terrible element client? I use matrix, but I don't bridge my accounts because I can't trust element.
- j45 3y ago
  What trust issues are there with elements if someone is self hosting?
  - jacooper 3y ago
    I didn't mean trust as in safety but as in reliability
    - j45 3y ago
      Oh, ok. Reliability as in uptime?
      - jacooper 3y ago
        No the client is just too buggy
- LorenDB 3y ago
  I'm not sure why you don't trust Element. It's open source, so you could just look at the code yourself to determine whether you can trust it. I personally use the nheko client since it is a native client and less bloat (in other words, no Electron stuff).
  - jacooper 3y ago
    I didn't mean trust as in safety but as in reliability
    - the_gipsy 3y ago
      In general it's not the smoothest but okay. Using bridges, for the mobile app the same applies: WhatsApp or Telegram are snappier but Element is still okay for me. Element web beats WhatsApp web, though. The Telegram desktop app is unbeaten, unless you want a TUI like me. I don't have any problems with message delivery.
- the_gipsy 3y ago
  Element mobile isn't as smooth as WhatsApp/Telegram but it isn't terrible either. If you don't trust then there a few alternative mobile clients and plenty of options on desktop. I use iamb which is modal TUI like vim.
  - jacooper 3y ago
    From my experience it's very buggy, images don't show up, just black boxes, messages get stuck sending, mentions don't work in replies, and many other issues.
- sph 3y ago
  Same. Element is the single reason I dislike Matrix with a passion, and any other client is either another Electron monstrosity, or a crappy native app that's little more than a proof of concept. Element is so bloated and slow, it's impossible not to feel Matrix is bloated and slow as well.
  - Arathorn 3y ago
    If you’re on macOS on Apple Silicon, try the Element X iOS app. Am hoping that we will end up with a proper native macOS port in the end, which should stop the Electron complaints dead.
    - sph 3y ago
      I'm on Linux.

jacooper 3y ago

How do you deal with the terrible element client? I use matrix, but I don't bridge my accounts because I can't trust element.

j45 3y ago
What trust issues are there with elements if someone is self hosting?
- jacooper 3y ago
  I didn't mean trust as in safety but as in reliability
  - j45 3y ago
    Oh, ok. Reliability as in uptime?
    - jacooper 3y ago
      No the client is just too buggy
LorenDB 3y ago
I'm not sure why you don't trust Element. It's open source, so you could just look at the code yourself to determine whether you can trust it. I personally use the nheko client since it is a native client and less bloat (in other words, no Electron stuff).
- jacooper 3y ago
  I didn't mean trust as in safety but as in reliability
  - the_gipsy 3y ago
    In general it's not the smoothest but okay. Using bridges, for the mobile app the same applies: WhatsApp or Telegram are snappier but Element is still okay for me. Element web beats WhatsApp web, though. The Telegram desktop app is unbeaten, unless you want a TUI like me. I don't have any problems with message delivery.
the_gipsy 3y ago
Element mobile isn't as smooth as WhatsApp/Telegram but it isn't terrible either. If you don't trust then there a few alternative mobile clients and plenty of options on desktop. I use iamb which is modal TUI like vim.
- jacooper 3y ago
  From my experience it's very buggy, images don't show up, just black boxes, messages get stuck sending, mentions don't work in replies, and many other issues.
sph 3y ago
Same. Element is the single reason I dislike Matrix with a passion, and any other client is either another Electron monstrosity, or a crappy native app that's little more than a proof of concept. Element is so bloated and slow, it's impossible not to feel Matrix is bloated and slow as well.
- Arathorn 3y ago
  If you’re on macOS on Apple Silicon, try the Element X iOS app. Am hoping that we will end up with a proper native macOS port in the end, which should stop the Electron complaints dead.
  - sph 3y ago
    I'm on Linux.