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Users are kinda mad https://twitter.com/ring/status/1685049112306262016 https://twitter.com/ring/status/1685049112306262016. I’ll give them credit and say this

by kulor 3y ago

Users are kinda mad https://twitter.com/ring/status/1685049112306262016 https://twitter.com/ring/status/1685049112306262016. I’ll give them credit and say this is the first time in 3 years I’ve had any issues

silisili 3y ago
I get being mad when a service is down, but some people seem to be like, melting down. Humans have lived for millenia (and really into the what, mid 2000s) without doorbell cameras, but some of those people are acting like they're going to get murdered now that it's down.
- JohnFen 3y ago
  A huge part of Ring's marketing involved making people so fearful that they felt they needed it to help them be safe. I'm willing to bet a lot of that anger comes from them feeling afraid. It's marketing in action.
  - skeeter2020 3y ago
    "I actually feel very vulnerable not being able to check my cameras before I go to bed" "I am missing many moments at home now !!" "I have no clue if someone is breaking in now" "The one time we decide to put the puppy downstairs on his own, we can’t even make sure he’s ok. Never mind our doorbell picking up people who have no business being there" "Would have been great to at least have a view of the robbers if they came to my house, u know. What a 'Ring' is supposed to be used for." Do ya think? I'm suprised and saddened by these reactions.
    - JohnFen 3y ago
      I'm saddened, but not even a little surprised. Ring's marketing is one of the many things that are contributing to the increasing isolation and alienation of people from each other.
      - AlotOfReading 3y ago
        I don't know, it really enhances the sense of community I feel when every third house says "Hi, you're being recorded" as I walk by.
        vic-traill 3y ago
        That, mon ami, gets a doubleplusgood[0] rating all day long. It's got understated irony that somehow tends to sarcasm at the same time. It's very hard to unpack yet delicious. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newspeak https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newspeak
    - Elixier22 3y ago
      Believer or not I'm sure you can use your ears if someone's breaking into your house and sure you will hear it,
      - deleted 3y ago
        [deleted]
    - Kon-Peki 3y ago
      And people still say "land of the free, home of the brave" very un-ironically.
    - femiagbabiaka 3y ago
      This is the world we live in now, yikes. Citizen app feels like another tendril of the same beast.
  - deleted 3y ago
    [deleted]
- rcurry 3y ago
  I kind of dig when things go down, I sort of like sitting around the gas fireplace and listening to my ham radio in a dark house for a few hours. If shit really hits the fan then it’s time for the tabletop gas burner and some beef and shrimp with veggies. Jira can wait until the power comes back on.
  - wembledon 3y ago
    Dude yes. I understand that it's a serious event, but when the background hum of electricity dies the world feels so different and real. I love it.
- ecf 3y ago
  24/7 news cycle constantly highlighting every single kidnapping or crime that happens across the country has instilled a culture of fear in most people. I grew up riding my bike completely across town by myself, before cell phones were pervasive. Parents these days are afraid of letting their kid walk 5 minutes to the neighborhood park…
sefrost 3y ago
Kind of off topic: do you need to be signed in to Twitter to see replies now?
- new23d 3y ago
  Yep. But the replies are all about users wanting credits.
- tempest_ 3y ago
  https://nitter.net/ring https://nitter.net/ring
skeeter2020 3y ago
People are losing their minds. This person sounds like many software developers: " I’m debating on setting up a home DVR system because I can’t trust Ring will stay online 24/7." - good luck with that. I mean, I get the frustration but you outsourced a core service to the internet, then are shocked when it's not available all the time? All the comments about "must be 24/7" and "don't you have backups?" etc... How can we possibly expect people to consider subtle things like privacy when they don't get the fundamentals?
- dataflow 3y ago
  "They" and "people" includes a surprising fraction of software engineers themselves. So many engineers design their systems assuming every customer has internet 24/7.
  - LapsangGuzzler 3y ago
    And what are the odds that they’ve never experienced an outage while on the job? Shit happens, I stopped freaking out about outages after I started my software career because every time one happens, my first thought is “I’m just glad it’s not me dealing with it”
- teeray 3y ago
  If this was the 90s and a telephone pole crash took down an alarm system monitoring center nobody would bat an eyelash. It’s inconvenient, but it happens. The digital equivalent—dropping the prod DB or something—draws the ire of millions. Consumer expectations changed when we put a computer in their pocket screaming OUTAGE.
  - contravariant 3y ago
    They wouldn't expect any redundancy in an alarm system monitoring centre? Also there's a very brief instance in time where such a system would not be basically digital. I think a lot of systems have lost a lot of reliability and resilience as they are replaced by (centralized, virtual) digital equivalents. Having a doorbell that fails because someone made a typo in a DNS entry (or whatever it is this time) is silly and people have every right to be angry. Though it would help if they direct some of that anger towards themselves for subjecting themselves to a doorbell that they don't control and sends surveillance on its immediate surrounding to some third party (who may send it back, for a price).
whalesalad 3y ago
Reminds me that I keep meaning to order the license plate "5NINES" for my car but not sure many will get the reference hehe.
- chayesfss 3y ago
  [dead]
- copperx 3y ago
  Make it 6NINES and they will.
sva_ 3y ago
For those with no ~~Twitter~~ X account: https://nitter.net/ring/status/1685049112306262016 https://nitter.net/ring/status/1685049112306262016

by kulor 3y ago

silisili 3y ago

I get being mad when a service is down, but some people seem to be like, melting down. Humans have lived for millenia (and really into the what, mid 2000s) without doorbell cameras, but some of those people are acting like they're going to get murdered now that it's down.

JohnFen 3y ago
A huge part of Ring's marketing involved making people so fearful that they felt they needed it to help them be safe. I'm willing to bet a lot of that anger comes from them feeling afraid. It's marketing in action.
- skeeter2020 3y ago
  "I actually feel very vulnerable not being able to check my cameras before I go to bed" "I am missing many moments at home now !!" "I have no clue if someone is breaking in now" "The one time we decide to put the puppy downstairs on his own, we can’t even make sure he’s ok. Never mind our doorbell picking up people who have no business being there" "Would have been great to at least have a view of the robbers if they came to my house, u know. What a 'Ring' is supposed to be used for." Do ya think? I'm suprised and saddened by these reactions.
  - JohnFen 3y ago
    I'm saddened, but not even a little surprised. Ring's marketing is one of the many things that are contributing to the increasing isolation and alienation of people from each other.
    - AlotOfReading 3y ago
      I don't know, it really enhances the sense of community I feel when every third house says "Hi, you're being recorded" as I walk by.
      - vic-traill 3y ago
        That, mon ami, gets a doubleplusgood[0] rating all day long. It's got understated irony that somehow tends to sarcasm at the same time. It's very hard to unpack yet delicious. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newspeak https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newspeak
  - Elixier22 3y ago
    Believer or not I'm sure you can use your ears if someone's breaking into your house and sure you will hear it,
    - deleted 3y ago
      [deleted]
  - Kon-Peki 3y ago
    And people still say "land of the free, home of the brave" very un-ironically.
  - femiagbabiaka 3y ago
    This is the world we live in now, yikes. Citizen app feels like another tendril of the same beast.
- deleted 3y ago
  [deleted]
rcurry 3y ago
I kind of dig when things go down, I sort of like sitting around the gas fireplace and listening to my ham radio in a dark house for a few hours. If shit really hits the fan then it’s time for the tabletop gas burner and some beef and shrimp with veggies. Jira can wait until the power comes back on.
- wembledon 3y ago
  Dude yes. I understand that it's a serious event, but when the background hum of electricity dies the world feels so different and real. I love it.
ecf 3y ago
24/7 news cycle constantly highlighting every single kidnapping or crime that happens across the country has instilled a culture of fear in most people. I grew up riding my bike completely across town by myself, before cell phones were pervasive. Parents these days are afraid of letting their kid walk 5 minutes to the neighborhood park…

sefrost 3y ago

Kind of off topic: do you need to be signed in to Twitter to see replies now?

new23d 3y ago
Yep. But the replies are all about users wanting credits.
tempest_ 3y ago
https://nitter.net/ring https://nitter.net/ring

skeeter2020 3y ago

People are losing their minds. This person sounds like many software developers: " I’m debating on setting up a home DVR system because I can’t trust Ring will stay online 24/7." - good luck with that. I mean, I get the frustration but you outsourced a core service to the internet, then are shocked when it's not available all the time? All the comments about "must be 24/7" and "don't you have backups?" etc... How can we possibly expect people to consider subtle things like privacy when they don't get the fundamentals?

dataflow 3y ago
"They" and "people" includes a surprising fraction of software engineers themselves. So many engineers design their systems assuming every customer has internet 24/7.
- LapsangGuzzler 3y ago
  And what are the odds that they’ve never experienced an outage while on the job? Shit happens, I stopped freaking out about outages after I started my software career because every time one happens, my first thought is “I’m just glad it’s not me dealing with it”
teeray 3y ago
If this was the 90s and a telephone pole crash took down an alarm system monitoring center nobody would bat an eyelash. It’s inconvenient, but it happens. The digital equivalent—dropping the prod DB or something—draws the ire of millions. Consumer expectations changed when we put a computer in their pocket screaming OUTAGE.
- contravariant 3y ago
  They wouldn't expect any redundancy in an alarm system monitoring centre? Also there's a very brief instance in time where such a system would not be basically digital. I think a lot of systems have lost a lot of reliability and resilience as they are replaced by (centralized, virtual) digital equivalents. Having a doorbell that fails because someone made a typo in a DNS entry (or whatever it is this time) is silly and people have every right to be angry. Though it would help if they direct some of that anger towards themselves for subjecting themselves to a doorbell that they don't control and sends surveillance on its immediate surrounding to some third party (who may send it back, for a price).

whalesalad 3y ago

Reminds me that I keep meaning to order the license plate "5NINES" for my car but not sure many will get the reference hehe.

chayesfss 3y ago
[dead]
copperx 3y ago
Make it 6NINES and they will.

sva_ 3y ago

For those with no ~~Twitter~~ X account: https://nitter.net/ring/status/1685049112306262016 https://nitter.net/ring/status/1685049112306262016