3 ms·

As a happy MS Teams user, I'm curious about what issues you experience? Also, if you're willing, I'd be interested to hear which competing products you use and

As a happy MS Teams user, I'm curious about what issues you experience? Also, if you're willing, I'd be interested to hear which competing products you use and which areas those products outperform MS Teams?

sofixa 3y ago
> As a happy MS Teams user Sounds like Stockholm syndrome. I was a moderately happy Teams user for conferencing before switching jobs to one that uses Zoom for conferencing, but occasionally has to use Teams.. it's not even close. Teams was, and still is, a crapshot if it will mangle my audio settings or not (browser, Ubuntu, macOS, doesn't matter). Camera touch-up is pathetic compared to what Zoom does (I have conflicting natural light). Oh, and logging in is often a pain with a million redirects left and right, a timeout from times to times, etc. Also, sometimes I just can't connect to a meeting, it will keep spinning forever, and I have to use the browser version which has the fun benefit of not having all features (sometimes the chat just isn't there on the browser while it is on the "native" "app").
- bombcar 3y ago
  I think a big part of it is if people use teams mainly as a video calling tool vs a chat tool vs a multiplayer Office tool.
- Spare_account 3y ago
  I wonder if there is a pattern here that people who are complaining about MS Teams are also largely non-Windows users? My company is almost exclusively made up of Windows users and overall, I don't hear many complaints about MS Teams.
dmonitor 3y ago
just look at the teams ui and count how many buttons are on screen crammed under the text box, and how many of those you’ve actually used in a productive manner
ecshafer 3y ago
Teams is the worst software I’ve ever used. I get frequent issues with it connecting to AD. It uses ungodly amounts of ram and cpu. Its ui is unintuitive. It’s really bad at telling who is active away or offline. It’s difficult to tune notifications since it’s chat and channels specific. Its video quality is bad. Its audio quality is bad. You can’t copy and paste code into and out of it easily. The chats have too much white space. There aren’t good emoji options in reactions.
- candiddevmike 3y ago
  I've worked at places that actually _rely_ on Teams away/online to determine if folks are actually working...
Banditoz 3y ago
Every Teams team has a backed Sharepoint site. Hard to watch videos in a Teams team. Why are they files? Two slightly different styles between teams and chats. I also heard they use two separate DBMSes between chats and teams. Pasting formatted code is an exercise in patience. Steps: Click More Formatting Click language dropdown Click language Paste code Click Insert Click send message (it doesn't focus) Discord lets you type three backticks, the language, and three backticks again. No mouse clicks required. Images randomly fail to load. Teams compresses PNGs to JPGs when it sends it to clients, so screenshots of code look like shit. Downloading it gives you the original file. You can only pin up to 15 chats. What product manager at Microsoft decided this completely arbitrary number that obviously is not a technical limitation at the time? Viewing a thread just sucks. Messages don't autoscroll when there's a new message. Good luck following a busy thread. Pasting in stuff from a site pastes formatted. Need to do ctrl-shift-v to paste unformatted. I have yet figured out the behavior of how inline code is supposed to work. Inconsistently it decides to close the block with a closing backtick. Sometimes it ignores it. Their webhook endpoint (for sending in messages to channels) can return a 200 if there is actually a problem delivering the message. I would rather use Slack, IRC, Discord, or even Matrix to name a few.
- bshacklett 3y ago
  For small snippets, three backticks and a space works. My biggest gripe is notifications. There’s no distinction between a direct message and a group chat, including meeting chats. To stop being pinged every time anyone talks to anyone else, you have to disable chat notifications completely. And yes… team channels exist, but very few people actually use them, because ad-hoc group chats are just so much easier. It’s the same with Slack, except that Slack has a reasonable mechanism for handling notifications.
laurels-marts 3y ago
Teams is a laggy and stuttery mess. Why is it so slow even on latest i7 intel and 16gb of RAM? It has 0 of what a native application should actually feel like when using.
nikau 3y ago
> I'm curious about what issues you experience? I especially like it when I switch chats and start typing too early and it either drops the first few words I enter, or they get put in reverse order.

sofixa 3y ago

> As a happy MS Teams user Sounds like Stockholm syndrome. I was a moderately happy Teams user for conferencing before switching jobs to one that uses Zoom for conferencing, but occasionally has to use Teams.. it's not even close. Teams was, and still is, a crapshot if it will mangle my audio settings or not (browser, Ubuntu, macOS, doesn't matter). Camera touch-up is pathetic compared to what Zoom does (I have conflicting natural light). Oh, and logging in is often a pain with a million redirects left and right, a timeout from times to times, etc. Also, sometimes I just can't connect to a meeting, it will keep spinning forever, and I have to use the browser version which has the fun benefit of not having all features (sometimes the chat just isn't there on the browser while it is on the "native" "app").

bombcar 3y ago
I think a big part of it is if people use teams mainly as a video calling tool vs a chat tool vs a multiplayer Office tool.
Spare_account 3y ago
I wonder if there is a pattern here that people who are complaining about MS Teams are also largely non-Windows users? My company is almost exclusively made up of Windows users and overall, I don't hear many complaints about MS Teams.

dmonitor 3y ago

just look at the teams ui and count how many buttons are on screen crammed under the text box, and how many of those you’ve actually used in a productive manner

ecshafer 3y ago

Teams is the worst software I’ve ever used. I get frequent issues with it connecting to AD. It uses ungodly amounts of ram and cpu. Its ui is unintuitive. It’s really bad at telling who is active away or offline. It’s difficult to tune notifications since it’s chat and channels specific. Its video quality is bad. Its audio quality is bad. You can’t copy and paste code into and out of it easily. The chats have too much white space. There aren’t good emoji options in reactions.

candiddevmike 3y ago
I've worked at places that actually _rely_ on Teams away/online to determine if folks are actually working...

Banditoz 3y ago

Every Teams team has a backed Sharepoint site. Hard to watch videos in a Teams team. Why are they files? Two slightly different styles between teams and chats. I also heard they use two separate DBMSes between chats and teams. Pasting formatted code is an exercise in patience. Steps: Click More Formatting Click language dropdown Click language Paste code Click Insert Click send message (it doesn't focus) Discord lets you type three backticks, the language, and three backticks again. No mouse clicks required. Images randomly fail to load. Teams compresses PNGs to JPGs when it sends it to clients, so screenshots of code look like shit. Downloading it gives you the original file. You can only pin up to 15 chats. What product manager at Microsoft decided this completely arbitrary number that obviously is not a technical limitation at the time? Viewing a thread just sucks. Messages don't autoscroll when there's a new message. Good luck following a busy thread. Pasting in stuff from a site pastes formatted. Need to do ctrl-shift-v to paste unformatted. I have yet figured out the behavior of how inline code is supposed to work. Inconsistently it decides to close the block with a closing backtick. Sometimes it ignores it. Their webhook endpoint (for sending in messages to channels) can return a 200 if there is actually a problem delivering the message. I would rather use Slack, IRC, Discord, or even Matrix to name a few.

bshacklett 3y ago
For small snippets, three backticks and a space works. My biggest gripe is notifications. There’s no distinction between a direct message and a group chat, including meeting chats. To stop being pinged every time anyone talks to anyone else, you have to disable chat notifications completely. And yes… team channels exist, but very few people actually use them, because ad-hoc group chats are just so much easier. It’s the same with Slack, except that Slack has a reasonable mechanism for handling notifications.

laurels-marts 3y ago

Teams is a laggy and stuttery mess. Why is it so slow even on latest i7 intel and 16gb of RAM? It has 0 of what a native application should actually feel like when using.

nikau 3y ago

> I'm curious about what issues you experience? I especially like it when I switch chats and start typing too early and it either drops the first few words I enter, or they get put in reverse order.