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An Internet Canvas
- viksit 3y agolove this. are there any open source versions of this as a library?
- v3ss0n 3y agoImpressive but quite sluggish and slow
- worthless-trash 3y agoIts quite responsive on my end, admittedly i'm only running it on a i7-8665U with 8gb of ram, not some shiny apple M* cpu.
- rambambram 3y agoIt's pretty fast on my Raspberry Pi 4 with 8 GB of RAM and running Firefox.
- gatinsama 3y agoI am running on a i9 16gb ram pc but struggles moving images. Still love the idea, though.
- xhfloz 3y agoWhat's your device spec? I have November blocked out for optimizations.
- NetOpWibby 3y agoThis is cool af. Almost feels like TOO many options for me but I'm an old who remembers editing MySpace pages. I love that this is a thing, it brings that MySpace-coding feeling back...the feeling that anything is possible and you're only limited by your imagination. I love that this product is responsive too. The creator(s) could've easily ignored mobile and kept it moving. Current website builders are serious about business whereas this one makes no assumptions and is quite fun.
- partyguy 3y agoTotally agree! I love mmm.page and I do think the internet needs more spaces for people to create their own pages and express their creativity. I actually recreated MySpace a while back[0] and and I'm seeing that a lot more people think this way! [0] https://spacehey.com https://spacehey.com
- ivolimmen 3y agoI took a look at some of the pages the users made and it gave me a flashback from the 90's/00's when we had c2u it was very popular in the Netherlands. Basically you could just create a page in pure HTML (I don't even think it had proper validation) and people shared/stole snippets they liked. One big blur of colour. Still love the creativity of people.
- marapuru 3y agoI think you mean CU2 :-)
- ivolimmen 3y agoIt has become a dating site! How awful...
- xhfloz 3y agoCurrently working on the ability to copy and paste the underlying blocks into your own editor (with owner’s permission) —- big believer in popping the hood! Long term dream is to have the HTML output look good enough that people can edit at both WYSIWYG and code levels.
- smokel 3y agoI really like mmm.page! It's so much fun to build a webpage with it, and it's extremely easy to use. Unfortunately, the ease of use has a limitation: on mobile, only the center column of the page is visible. This makes it unsuitable for a portfolio site with large landscape images. Would this use case require another site such as EEE.page, or will mmm.page evolve into a more complex system?
- littlelady 3y agoWow! This looks so fun and definitely reminds me of when people were less about their "personal brand" with their websites. It feels less intimidating and serious. I loved looking at the random pages.
- Tistron 3y agoIt seems cool, but viewing it with mobile chrome, a lot of stuff is misaligned with images on top of text and some text on top of other text. In mobile firefox it looks great.
- xhfloz 3y agoMobile Chrome on what OS?
- heckelson 3y agothis is sooo cute! I don't have a use for it right now, but I had a lot of fun editing the website
- uneekname 3y agoThis sorta kinda feels like Multiverse [0], a project which has been on a sort of break [1] so it seems there is much room for innovation in this space! [0] https://multiverse.plus https://multiverse.plus [1] https://multiverse.plus/kicks/unfulfilling-message-1 https://multiverse.plus/kicks/unfulfilling-message-1
- NetOpWibby 3y agoMultiverse looks great too, wow!!
- jerz 3y agoThis is very cool .... so polished, love the sound effects! Any plans to open source the editing tools part of this? (separate from the web page building part of it). Seems great for annotating/collaborating on existing web pages.
- DangerousYams 3y agommm is the best My kids (9yo) love it too One of them made this https://masalagames.mmm.page/shaan https://masalagames.mmm.page/shaan
- nubinetwork 3y ago[flagged]
- capableweb 3y agoNo traction, no dupe :) As long as op doesn't spam it.
- antidnan 3y agoI got an (automated?) email from HN mods to repost it on the HN second chance pool https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26998308 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26998308
- xhfloz 3y agoTIL
- ryan42 3y agoI've been using mmm.page to manage a tiny landing page for awhile, I really like its flexibility and ease of use. It is something I would definitely look into paying for in the future if the site needs to grow into something bigger, or for other projects I want to do.
- foobarbecue 3y agoI clicked the "Code" button and it says "requires an upgrade to Plus." That made me sad. Also, I couldn't figure out how to rotate stuff... one of the images was rotated but I can't find the tool for it. That's actually what made me click "code". I know this isn't supposed to be a finished product.
- xhfloz 3y agoThat is not an unfair assessment. Hopefully 1.0 irons out the kinks.
- dfex 3y agoTo rotate, select an object and move the mouse to just outside one of the corner/anchor boundaries - the cursor will change to a curved arrow which will rotate the shape
- foobarbecue 3y agoOh, thanks, it works! I didn't think to try that. I'm used to UIs where you click a second time to go into rotate mode.
- dabedee 3y agoIt doesn't seem to load/work on Firefox 115.0.2 (Mac OS) for me.
- 65 3y agoLooks almost exactly the same as e.gg, which Meta shut down after a few months. https://techcrunch.com/2020/11/18/facebook-launches-e-gg-an-experimental-collage-making-app/ https://techcrunch.com/2020/11/18/facebook-launches-e-gg-an-...
- epiccoleman 3y agoThis is seriously awesome. I'm having a ton of fun slapping together a page. One piece of feedback - you have got to make it so drawings auto-save instead of disappearing when you click exit instead of save. This is something that both me and my son have encountered in just the 20 minutes we've been playing with it. It's such a bummer to see your lovingly mouse-drawn art disappear into nothingness because you hit the wrong button.
- xhfloz 3y agoCreator of mmm.page here — thanks all for the attention. I woke up wondering why traffic suddenly spiked... I recently created a newsletter [1] to write and experiment more a la "An Internet Canvas." Feel free to give it a read. You can also find me on Twitter [2], and support my project via patronships [3]. Oh, and go explore all the other sites people have made [4]. [1] https://woolgather.sh/issue/1 https://woolgather.sh/issue/1 [2] https://twitter.com/xhfloz https://twitter.com/xhfloz [3] https://woolgather.sh/patron https://woolgather.sh/patron [4] https://explore.mmm.page https://explore.mmm.page
- threesided 3y agoSuper cool! I built a similar tool a few years back but never followed through on making it open to the public. Love seeing that I'm not the only one who yearns for more fun page editing tools. Keep up the great work!
- epicide 3y agoA couple of small points of feedback after using it for a few minutes: * The move to front/back hotkey tooltips are both listed as ]. * There doesn't seem to be a way to add a link to words/text within a text box, only the text box itself. This is quite different from how most people expect links to work on web pages. * Speaking of links, if you have an image with transparent pixels in front of another image (such as the HyperCard screenshot) and you add a link to the image in back, the link is not clickable. It makes sense why, but it's a bit counterintuitive (and also limits the usefulness of images with transparency).
- xhfloz 3y ago* Those hotkeys should work (follows Figma's example). * A very high priority. * Yeah... I plan to let people disable click (e.g. pointer-events: none) on elements, but automatically detecting transparent overlapping areas is a bit more work.
- pwillia7 3y agoI LOVE this! Very excited to play around with it. This all makes so much sense and I really like the point about not assuming what the framework/builder is for. Brilliant!
- arxpoetica 3y agoI had an epiphany recently that as the tooling for WASM matures, we'll likely return to a visual programming model. I know Microsoft has doubled down on this front (https://dotnet.microsoft.com/en-us/apps/aspnet/web-apps/blazor https://dotnet.microsoft.com/en-us/apps/aspnet/web-apps/blaz...) but I'm ideally this is still a universe of HTML/JS/CSS that's easy to pick apart under the surface. This Internet Canvas seems like a step in that direction.
- Waterluvian 3y agoI love this idea. And maybe this criticism is unavoidable in today's world, but I had conflicting emotions on the matter. One side of me thought, "oh man they know their target. Animated gifs and websites that just want to share rather than worry about fancy schmancy Silicon Valley nonsense design. But then the other side of me detected the typical 2020s startup pattern of "landing page where you can't do anything but sign up or read a "compelling" story that should make you feel feels." Gimme that nostalgia. Gimme my page! Gimme gimme! Let me start screwing around IMMEDIATELY and let me save it to my disk or offer to host it for me if I make an account. EDIT: I just found the Edit button in the corner that gives me almost exactly what I want. Ohhh sound effects! This is snappy! That Edit button should be front and center... or even just on by default. Also I LOVE "Not visible on phones" as a very simple solution. Sure it's limiting, but I think it's far more accessible than "oh there's multiple views and you have to worry all about responsiveness." Nope... just... "this is bonus space for desktops." Maybe I'll hide some easter eggs there. EDIT2: my last criticism is that you should be up front about the pricing model without me first having to make an account. The model seems reasonable, but it's yet another "2020s era pattern to capture you before telling you the details." I hate making accounts only to find out later that the pricing is silly. Makes me feel like I'm just a pawn to some SV startup garbage.
- dfex 3y agoTo be fair, the pricing is easily locatable in the hamburger menu, without the need to log in
- Waterluvian 3y agoAh I missed that!!
- selfhoster11 3y agoKinda seems to lock you into the ecosystem. Is there an option to export the data somehow?