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What’s the sudden official interest in UFOs/UAPs all about? Is it about getting more funding? It can’t be they believe aliens are flying around acting like a

by mc32 3y ago

What’s the sudden official interest in UFOs/UAPs all about? Is it about getting more funding? It can’t be they believe aliens are flying around acting like a laser pointer to a cat. Do they think adversaries have extraordinary technologies? I can’t figure it out.

rybosworld 3y ago
David Grusch is a whistleblower claiming that the U.S. military is in possession of recovered alien craft.
- pierat 3y ago
  AND said that there were biologicals on there that were not from the Earth. And also said there were individuals whom were injured in the reverse engineering of said non-human spacecraft. This is all TS/SCI, so the actual hard details and proof are locked in a fucking SCIF.
tgv 3y ago
It's summertime. The 24 hour news cycle needs a boost. A bit of clickbait never hurt, has it?
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hammock 3y ago
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- st3ve445678 3y ago
  So the people who put this UFO hearing together (mostly republicans) set this all up and timed it just to cover up Hunter saying hes guilty on tax charges? Riiight...
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- chomp 3y ago
  What are you talking about? Republicans control the House and set the scheduling, and this was scheduled weeks ago. Newsmax is showing only UFO hearings. Anyone who would have a political vendetta against the Bidens and could be talking about the Bidens, has decided that they should be talking about UFOs right now. Stop with the conspiracy theories, come on.
- throw_nbvc1234 3y ago
  Why would a republican controlled house committee run cover for the Bidens?
  - op00to 3y ago
    Facts are poisonous for people who follow the GOP.
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Teever 3y ago
My take is that it's an attempt by the US three letter agencies to get people off of qanon and and onto a far less dangerous conspiracy.
- actionfromafar 3y ago
  I’m sure it can somehow be combined with pizza. Who invented pizza anyway?
  - phtrivier 3y ago
    "You really believe pizza exists ? Wake up, sheeple !" ;) (Sorry, I could not resist.)
- rig666 3y ago
  This is probably more real than an actual alien craft being kept a secret for decades. Ancient aliens plays on loop on history channel 24/7 on top of a plethora of alien moves being made every year. As well it's the one superstition that all people sort of believe as well. Far right (that isn't hard religious) is deep into these conspiracies. Far left that does shrooms all-day while fondling crystals and playing with tarro cards like Pokemon also like UFOs as well. Even general center left atheist and scientists at least likes the idea of life on a distant plant even if we aren't in possession of an alliance craft. In school and the work place talking about religion can cause problems with HR/administration or even a lawsuit but you can't get in trouble for talking about aliens. Even the popular avatar movies tries to mix aliens and religion into an easy native for people even if it's about a human invasion. So much so that people suffer "post avatar depression" https://www.cnn.com/2010/SHOWBIZ/Movies/01/11/avatar.movie.blues/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2010/SHOWBIZ/Movies/01/11/avatar.movie.b... Aliens in a since is the new "god of the gaps" to help people make since of things we don't fully understand.
revscat 3y ago
There are legitimate reasons to believe that the United States Defense Department has in its possession one or more craft built by non-human intelligences, and has been covering this up for decades. This hearing is to allow witnesses to testify in an effort to move forward in our understanding of the truth to these claims.
- furyofantares 3y ago
  There aren't.
  - revscat 3y ago
    There are serious people who think otherwise. You're two word dismissal is not a rebuttal.
    - baseballdork 3y ago
      There are serious people who believe lots of silly things. Your assertion that someone who you consider serious believes a thing is not a "legitimate reason" to believe the US DoD has alien tech.
      - revscat 3y ago
        And we have mechanisms in place to filter those people out. They seem to be successfully passing those filters. This makes it more likely they are truthful. I will assume a reply of “that does not guarantee truth/the system is imperfect” has already been given. Of course it doesn’t, and of course it isn’t. There are few guarantees. Passing those filters makes it more likely to be true. More likely. Not certain. More.
        baseballdork 3y ago
        What mechanics and filters are you referring to? They don't seem to be at all effective.
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wturner 3y ago
Culturally, everything in the U.S revolves around financial opportunism. When people are poor trapped in gig economy with three jobs, it becomes difficult to rationalize a zillion dollar military….that’s what religion is for, and that’s all this horseshit is
dgellow 3y ago
Based on absolutely no evidence, my hunch would be a foreign country trying to create confusion or distrust? Not that difficult to get someone to push ridiculous stories about hidden secrets in the current political landscape.
- hammock 3y ago
  Why would it be foreign? Couldn’t it also be a domestic influence of some kind?
  - dgellow 3y ago
    Fair enough, domestic or foreign.
op00to 3y ago
It’s something to distract from something else.
- edgyquant 3y ago
  Yes. Everything that ever happens is a distraction from something else.
- IAmGraydon 3y ago
  I think this is highly likely, as was the "balloon" fiasco.
hammock 3y ago
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- maxbond 3y ago
  With a 24 hour news cycle, and the willingness to switch to another story in order to keep your pattern going, I'm sure you can do this with anything.
  - hammock 3y ago
    Probably true. It could also just as easily be the other way around (trying to cover up UFO news..unsuccessfully)
    - maxbond 3y ago
      I have to imagine someone who is following this as closely as you seem to be would know that most "UFO news" originates from public statements from people at the Pentagon, and that government are promoting it, not burying it.
maxbond 3y ago
[ES: Rumor] As far as I know, it's to destigmatize the idea of UFO/UAP sightings, and encourage both civilian and military pilots to report them. So that they can investigated - to identify aerial surveillance platforms, like the infamous Chinese spy balloon, and experimental aircraft.
Gene_Parmesan 3y ago
I don't know if this is the same wave, but a few years ago they declassified footage from military planes actively tracking UFOs. In the wake of that there was a bit of a flurry of naval and air force personnel saying they've "seen things." The UFO community - of which I am not a part - seems to have been veritably foaming at the mouth ever since. Personally I'm always more interested in the conspiracy behind the conspiracy. It is undeniably more likely that the Pentagon has, for some reason, started quietly pushing out things in this vein than it is that actual aliens are flying around. I'm very curious as to what their motivation might be. There's a lot of evidence, for instance, that during the heyday of Area 51 they knew they had to get out in front of civilian sightings of odd aircraft, and that project bluebook was essentially them just cross referencing sightings with classified test flights. So I'm curious about what they might be trying to get ahead of here.
- mc32 3y ago
  Agreed. UFO sighting have an analogue on the religious world where devotees witness miracles and in many cases sincerely believe them and official bodies recognize these miracles. But also in many cases these miracles are concocted by someone with a particular agenda (often commercial). This UFO/UAP stuff reminds me of that.
throwaway743 3y ago
It hasn't been sudden.

by mc32 3y ago

rybosworld 3y ago

David Grusch is a whistleblower claiming that the U.S. military is in possession of recovered alien craft.

pierat 3y ago
AND said that there were biologicals on there that were not from the Earth. And also said there were individuals whom were injured in the reverse engineering of said non-human spacecraft. This is all TS/SCI, so the actual hard details and proof are locked in a fucking SCIF.

tgv 3y ago

It's summertime. The 24 hour news cycle needs a boost. A bit of clickbait never hurt, has it?

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hammock 3y ago

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st3ve445678 3y ago
So the people who put this UFO hearing together (mostly republicans) set this all up and timed it just to cover up Hunter saying hes guilty on tax charges? Riiight...
- deleted 3y ago
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chomp 3y ago
What are you talking about? Republicans control the House and set the scheduling, and this was scheduled weeks ago. Newsmax is showing only UFO hearings. Anyone who would have a political vendetta against the Bidens and could be talking about the Bidens, has decided that they should be talking about UFOs right now. Stop with the conspiracy theories, come on.
throw_nbvc1234 3y ago
Why would a republican controlled house committee run cover for the Bidens?
- op00to 3y ago
  Facts are poisonous for people who follow the GOP.
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Teever 3y ago

My take is that it's an attempt by the US three letter agencies to get people off of qanon and and onto a far less dangerous conspiracy.

actionfromafar 3y ago
I’m sure it can somehow be combined with pizza. Who invented pizza anyway?
- phtrivier 3y ago
  "You really believe pizza exists ? Wake up, sheeple !" ;) (Sorry, I could not resist.)
rig666 3y ago
This is probably more real than an actual alien craft being kept a secret for decades. Ancient aliens plays on loop on history channel 24/7 on top of a plethora of alien moves being made every year. As well it's the one superstition that all people sort of believe as well. Far right (that isn't hard religious) is deep into these conspiracies. Far left that does shrooms all-day while fondling crystals and playing with tarro cards like Pokemon also like UFOs as well. Even general center left atheist and scientists at least likes the idea of life on a distant plant even if we aren't in possession of an alliance craft. In school and the work place talking about religion can cause problems with HR/administration or even a lawsuit but you can't get in trouble for talking about aliens. Even the popular avatar movies tries to mix aliens and religion into an easy native for people even if it's about a human invasion. So much so that people suffer "post avatar depression" https://www.cnn.com/2010/SHOWBIZ/Movies/01/11/avatar.movie.blues/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2010/SHOWBIZ/Movies/01/11/avatar.movie.b... Aliens in a since is the new "god of the gaps" to help people make since of things we don't fully understand.

revscat 3y ago

There are legitimate reasons to believe that the United States Defense Department has in its possession one or more craft built by non-human intelligences, and has been covering this up for decades. This hearing is to allow witnesses to testify in an effort to move forward in our understanding of the truth to these claims.

furyofantares 3y ago
There aren't.
- revscat 3y ago
  There are serious people who think otherwise. You're two word dismissal is not a rebuttal.
  - baseballdork 3y ago
    There are serious people who believe lots of silly things. Your assertion that someone who you consider serious believes a thing is not a "legitimate reason" to believe the US DoD has alien tech.
    - revscat 3y ago
      And we have mechanisms in place to filter those people out. They seem to be successfully passing those filters. This makes it more likely they are truthful. I will assume a reply of “that does not guarantee truth/the system is imperfect” has already been given. Of course it doesn’t, and of course it isn’t. There are few guarantees. Passing those filters makes it more likely to be true. More likely. Not certain. More.
      - baseballdork 3y ago
        What mechanics and filters are you referring to? They don't seem to be at all effective.
  - 3y ago

wturner 3y ago

Culturally, everything in the U.S revolves around financial opportunism. When people are poor trapped in gig economy with three jobs, it becomes difficult to rationalize a zillion dollar military….that’s what religion is for, and that’s all this horseshit is

dgellow 3y ago

Based on absolutely no evidence, my hunch would be a foreign country trying to create confusion or distrust? Not that difficult to get someone to push ridiculous stories about hidden secrets in the current political landscape.

hammock 3y ago
Why would it be foreign? Couldn’t it also be a domestic influence of some kind?
- dgellow 3y ago
  Fair enough, domestic or foreign.

op00to 3y ago

It’s something to distract from something else.

edgyquant 3y ago
Yes. Everything that ever happens is a distraction from something else.
IAmGraydon 3y ago
I think this is highly likely, as was the "balloon" fiasco.

hammock 3y ago

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maxbond 3y ago
With a 24 hour news cycle, and the willingness to switch to another story in order to keep your pattern going, I'm sure you can do this with anything.
- hammock 3y ago
  Probably true. It could also just as easily be the other way around (trying to cover up UFO news..unsuccessfully)
  - maxbond 3y ago
    I have to imagine someone who is following this as closely as you seem to be would know that most "UFO news" originates from public statements from people at the Pentagon, and that government are promoting it, not burying it.

maxbond 3y ago

[ES: Rumor] As far as I know, it's to destigmatize the idea of UFO/UAP sightings, and encourage both civilian and military pilots to report them. So that they can investigated - to identify aerial surveillance platforms, like the infamous Chinese spy balloon, and experimental aircraft.

Gene_Parmesan 3y ago

I don't know if this is the same wave, but a few years ago they declassified footage from military planes actively tracking UFOs. In the wake of that there was a bit of a flurry of naval and air force personnel saying they've "seen things." The UFO community - of which I am not a part - seems to have been veritably foaming at the mouth ever since. Personally I'm always more interested in the conspiracy behind the conspiracy. It is undeniably more likely that the Pentagon has, for some reason, started quietly pushing out things in this vein than it is that actual aliens are flying around. I'm very curious as to what their motivation might be. There's a lot of evidence, for instance, that during the heyday of Area 51 they knew they had to get out in front of civilian sightings of odd aircraft, and that project bluebook was essentially them just cross referencing sightings with classified test flights. So I'm curious about what they might be trying to get ahead of here.

mc32 3y ago
Agreed. UFO sighting have an analogue on the religious world where devotees witness miracles and in many cases sincerely believe them and official bodies recognize these miracles. But also in many cases these miracles are concocted by someone with a particular agenda (often commercial). This UFO/UAP stuff reminds me of that.

throwaway743 3y ago

It hasn't been sudden.