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I do, and I keep having those tiring conversations, but it's really hard to get the point across in layman's terms. I have enough friends in tech who stick with

I do, and I keep having those tiring conversations, but it's really hard to get the point across in layman's terms. I have enough friends in tech who stick with Chrome out of convenience instead of just falling back on it in case something actually doesn't work in Firefox. how do I convince tech illiterate people of doing this?

erklik 3y ago
It's faster. The same old justification that was used to switch to Chrome can now be used for Firefox.
AdamN 3y ago
For the tech illiterate recommend Safari. For tech people, appeal to their privileged position and the importance of defending the web by choosing any other browser (or Safari). Both users can keep Chrome installed as a fallback - that will help with convincing too.
- suslik 3y ago
  And drop my Ublock origin, bypass paywall clean, etc? Hell no.
  - timeon 3y ago
    > Ublock origin At least there is Adguard.
- JohnFen 3y ago
  > For the tech illiterate recommend Safari. That's only applicable to Apple users, though.
  - AdamN 3y ago
    Tech illiterate people should be using MacOS anyway. Windows just gets worse every year. MacOS is actually more like classic Windows than Windows 11 is so it's actually easier to use for tech illiterate people.
- freedomben 3y ago
  Didn't Apple implement this same type of thing in Safari a year or so ago?
jckahn 3y ago
You can’t, realistically. I don’t think there’s any repeatable or effective way to make non-nerds (AKA most people) care about this sort of thing.
Buttons840 3y ago
Start referring to them as "Chrome developers" -- what's this "web" thing you keep talking about?
_urvc 3y ago
Whenever a new device needs to be setup for my parents, I just install whatever I use (Firefox in this case). Then I show them the things they need on a day by day basis. The problem are people who did grow up with tech. They will say things like it will take too long. In cases like this you need to manipulate them based on their personality.

erklik 3y ago

It's faster. The same old justification that was used to switch to Chrome can now be used for Firefox.

AdamN 3y ago

For the tech illiterate recommend Safari. For tech people, appeal to their privileged position and the importance of defending the web by choosing any other browser (or Safari). Both users can keep Chrome installed as a fallback - that will help with convincing too.

suslik 3y ago
And drop my Ublock origin, bypass paywall clean, etc? Hell no.
- timeon 3y ago
  > Ublock origin At least there is Adguard.
JohnFen 3y ago
> For the tech illiterate recommend Safari. That's only applicable to Apple users, though.
- AdamN 3y ago
  Tech illiterate people should be using MacOS anyway. Windows just gets worse every year. MacOS is actually more like classic Windows than Windows 11 is so it's actually easier to use for tech illiterate people.
freedomben 3y ago
Didn't Apple implement this same type of thing in Safari a year or so ago?

jckahn 3y ago

You can’t, realistically. I don’t think there’s any repeatable or effective way to make non-nerds (AKA most people) care about this sort of thing.

Buttons840 3y ago

Start referring to them as "Chrome developers" -- what's this "web" thing you keep talking about?

_urvc 3y ago

Whenever a new device needs to be setup for my parents, I just install whatever I use (Firefox in this case). Then I show them the things they need on a day by day basis. The problem are people who did grow up with tech. They will say things like it will take too long. In cases like this you need to manipulate them based on their personality.