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Not really. Being the only woman around a bunch of drunk frat-like guys is not fun.

by Washuu 3y ago

ChoHag 3y ago
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veave 3y ago
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- neilalexander 3y ago
  That's what you took away from this?
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- rhyswallace 3y ago
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jjgreen 3y ago
Hen parties can get pretty obnoxious too.
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- jjgreen 3y ago
  Ooh, it's all got a bit ill-humoured in this thread; perhaps I should expand. Hen parties (batchelorette parties for left-ponders) can and do get obnoxious, no-one that's been to a pub in the UK could deny that: screaming, splashing Prosecco around, hooting with laughter at giant inflatable penises, I'll discreetly move to a different part of the pub. Do I think them morally reprehensible? Absolutely not, any group of young people drinking will include some who don't drink very often, so don't know their limits. Everyone is obnoxious when they start drinking, but they have to learn somehow (or become teetotal). So while I dislike hen parties, I defend them, you go girl(s). If you feel that way (I think many do), then you really have to afford the same tolerance to groups of young men. That was my point.
  - elusive8318 3y ago
    Your comment doesn’t seem to come from a bad place but is a bit out of touch in my opinion. I’m generalising but can imagine that, for a woman, dealing with a group of pissed city boys feels much more uncomfortable than your brush ins with hen do’s. This is all ignoring the fact that this thread is around drinking during work hours. So I don’t think the comparison to hen do’s is fair in the first place.
    - jjgreen 3y ago
      This "Sir Galahad" approach of excusing the drunken ladies their misdeeds strikes me as rather like mansplaining, "manexcusing" if you will. Women don't need their bad behaviour explained and excused by men, they are quite capable of suffering the vomiting and hangovers (and learning from them) themselves.
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      - malcolmgreaves 3y ago
        You're comparing apples to oranges. Personal, individual annoyance from a group of women being rowdy vs. the physical aggression, and undertones of violence that are associated with it, that comes from a group of drunk young guys.
niemandhier 3y ago
There is a lot of low quality comments on this, I feel sorry for that. What everybody who does not feel well under these conditions should never the less consider is: Connections are formed during these events and collective rule breaking is an effective bonding mechanism. Further more, getting intoxicated together is a convenient way to make statements and have a degree of deniability afterwards.

Not really. Being the only woman around a bunch of drunk frat-like guys is not fun.

by Washuu 3y ago

Not really. Being the only woman around a bunch of drunk frat-like guys is not fun.

ChoHag 3y ago

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veave 3y ago

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neilalexander 3y ago
That's what you took away from this?
- veave 3y ago
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  - emptyfile 3y ago
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rhyswallace 3y ago
?

jjgreen 3y ago

Hen parties can get pretty obnoxious too.

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jjgreen 3y ago
Ooh, it's all got a bit ill-humoured in this thread; perhaps I should expand. Hen parties (batchelorette parties for left-ponders) can and do get obnoxious, no-one that's been to a pub in the UK could deny that: screaming, splashing Prosecco around, hooting with laughter at giant inflatable penises, I'll discreetly move to a different part of the pub. Do I think them morally reprehensible? Absolutely not, any group of young people drinking will include some who don't drink very often, so don't know their limits. Everyone is obnoxious when they start drinking, but they have to learn somehow (or become teetotal). So while I dislike hen parties, I defend them, you go girl(s). If you feel that way (I think many do), then you really have to afford the same tolerance to groups of young men. That was my point.
- elusive8318 3y ago
  Your comment doesn’t seem to come from a bad place but is a bit out of touch in my opinion. I’m generalising but can imagine that, for a woman, dealing with a group of pissed city boys feels much more uncomfortable than your brush ins with hen do’s. This is all ignoring the fact that this thread is around drinking during work hours. So I don’t think the comparison to hen do’s is fair in the first place.
  - jjgreen 3y ago
    This "Sir Galahad" approach of excusing the drunken ladies their misdeeds strikes me as rather like mansplaining, "manexcusing" if you will. Women don't need their bad behaviour explained and excused by men, they are quite capable of suffering the vomiting and hangovers (and learning from them) themselves.
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    - malcolmgreaves 3y ago
      You're comparing apples to oranges. Personal, individual annoyance from a group of women being rowdy vs. the physical aggression, and undertones of violence that are associated with it, that comes from a group of drunk young guys.

niemandhier 3y ago

There is a lot of low quality comments on this, I feel sorry for that. What everybody who does not feel well under these conditions should never the less consider is: Connections are formed during these events and collective rule breaking is an effective bonding mechanism. Further more, getting intoxicated together is a convenient way to make statements and have a degree of deniability afterwards.