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When you find that your news sources don't match what's actually happening in the real world, it's time to check on the agenda of those news sources. It's also

When you find that your news sources don't match what's actually happening in the real world, it's time to check on the agenda of those news sources. It's also a good idea to look at macro trends and not get distracted by anecdotes with high emotional or political payloads. My experience: A desirable place to live. Mild climate, beautiful scenery, a wide variety of cultural and recreational activities, top-ranked universities. A growing job market. The job market in Seattle is growing rapidly, with a number of new businesses and industries opening up in the area. This has created a lot of new job opportunities, which has attracted people from all over the country and the world. A strong transportation system. Seattle has a well-developed transportation system, which makes it easy for people to get around the city without a car. The city has a light rail system, a bus system, and an extensive network of bike paths and trails. A vibrant arts and culture scene. Seattle has a vibrant arts and culture scene, with a number of museums, theaters, and concert halls. The city also hosts a number of festivals and events throughout the year. Seattle culture is welcoming and accepting, attracting people from all over the world. This diversity creates a rich cultural tapestry that can be found in the city's restaurants, shops, and neighborhoods.

wonderwonder 3y ago
I mean Capitol Hill really was seized and people were killed and stores were looted. Crime really is escalating along with the homeless population. Plus there is a drug issue. So the news I am consuming is not the issue. Thus the answer is that in spite of these things the city is growing, hence my question. No need to lob insults in some sort of misguided political crusade. Thanks!
- dghlsakjg 3y ago
  You keep citing a protest from more than three years ago and a trend of rising crime and homelessness that is affecting Seattle, as well as almost every major city in America. It seems like you aren’t actually curious why people move to Seattle, and just want to believe what you already think you know. The person responding to you had not a hint of personal attack or insult, they merely pointed out that your news did not match reality. It is a good idea to evaluate your sources if that is what is happening.
  - wonderwonder 3y ago
    If you look at the comment I was responding to, they posted in an attacking manner. I was responding to that. I agree it was 3 years ago, but all those people likely still live there and it was a pretty damn big deal. Several city blocks were seized and lawless. So again I clearly communicated that this is what the news I saw was conveying and then asked for the reasons it was growing as this is all the info I have. No idea why everyone is incredibly insulted that I asked a question.
    - seanmcdirmid 3y ago
      > but all those people likely still live there and it was a pretty damn big deal You aren't going to get much sympathy for your position from those people who lives in Capitol Hill, they tend to be very young and very left in their ideology. Yes, FoxNews showed that picture of the teleporting guy with the gun (before they started marking such pictures as illustration), and yes, the homicide rate was slightly above average during the CHAZ. Most of us who live in Seattle never actually experienced it (I didn't), and when I finally got around to visiting Capitol Hill during the pandemic, it was long over and a perfectly normal place (albeit with slightly more restaurants closed).
      - wonderwonder 3y ago
        Fair enough, thank you.
- sedev 3y ago
  You are factually wrong and also your news sources are factually wrong. If you find that insulting, that's a you problem.
  - wonderwonder 3y ago
    cool cool, what part am I factually wrong about? The growing homeless population? The drug problem? The growth in violent crime? The Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone and the related killings?
    - c22 3y ago
      I lived on the hill during the protests. I walked through the 'capitol hill autonomous zone' with my children numerous times and never felt unsafe. 15-20 years ago I used to catch a late-night bus at Pike and 3rd which was considerably sketchier than anything that's ever happened on Capitol Hill and even that was tame compared to other large cities I've visited.
      - wonderwonder 3y ago
        Friend, respectfully... 5 people were not shot over a few days on the late night bus. I'm glad you felt safe and that you were able to walk your kids through it but lets not down play what really happened to the people that were shot and killed in that small area during that short window of time.
        c22 3y ago
        I don't watch a lot of news so I can't really speak to the facts you're citing, but I've also spent some time living southeast of Capitol Hill in the Central District where people actually routinely get shot and where I've been mugged at gunpoint so it's possible my 'safety tolerance' is just different from yours. By comparison, nothing I saw on the hill during the 'CHAZ' even came close, it was mostly drum circles and graffiti-art. I remember feeling a similar disconnect between the news cycle and my lived experience during 'Occupy Wallstreet' when I watched a crowd of hundreds of people walking two blocks from in front of Westlake to protest at the Bank of America stop and wait for every pedestrian signal.
- lazyasciiart 3y ago
  I live in Capitol Hill and no, it wasn't "seized". CHAZ was on the same level of disruption as this weekend's annual music festival, which fenced off several city blocks (and they were blocks filled with stores people wanted to go to, not just the park). The news you are consuming is absolutely the issue, but I get the impression that you consume it because it tells you what you want to hear.

wonderwonder 3y ago

I mean Capitol Hill really was seized and people were killed and stores were looted. Crime really is escalating along with the homeless population. Plus there is a drug issue. So the news I am consuming is not the issue. Thus the answer is that in spite of these things the city is growing, hence my question. No need to lob insults in some sort of misguided political crusade. Thanks!

dghlsakjg 3y ago
You keep citing a protest from more than three years ago and a trend of rising crime and homelessness that is affecting Seattle, as well as almost every major city in America. It seems like you aren’t actually curious why people move to Seattle, and just want to believe what you already think you know. The person responding to you had not a hint of personal attack or insult, they merely pointed out that your news did not match reality. It is a good idea to evaluate your sources if that is what is happening.
- wonderwonder 3y ago
  If you look at the comment I was responding to, they posted in an attacking manner. I was responding to that. I agree it was 3 years ago, but all those people likely still live there and it was a pretty damn big deal. Several city blocks were seized and lawless. So again I clearly communicated that this is what the news I saw was conveying and then asked for the reasons it was growing as this is all the info I have. No idea why everyone is incredibly insulted that I asked a question.
  - seanmcdirmid 3y ago
    > but all those people likely still live there and it was a pretty damn big deal You aren't going to get much sympathy for your position from those people who lives in Capitol Hill, they tend to be very young and very left in their ideology. Yes, FoxNews showed that picture of the teleporting guy with the gun (before they started marking such pictures as illustration), and yes, the homicide rate was slightly above average during the CHAZ. Most of us who live in Seattle never actually experienced it (I didn't), and when I finally got around to visiting Capitol Hill during the pandemic, it was long over and a perfectly normal place (albeit with slightly more restaurants closed).
    - wonderwonder 3y ago
      Fair enough, thank you.
sedev 3y ago
You are factually wrong and also your news sources are factually wrong. If you find that insulting, that's a you problem.
- wonderwonder 3y ago
  cool cool, what part am I factually wrong about? The growing homeless population? The drug problem? The growth in violent crime? The Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone and the related killings?
  - c22 3y ago
    I lived on the hill during the protests. I walked through the 'capitol hill autonomous zone' with my children numerous times and never felt unsafe. 15-20 years ago I used to catch a late-night bus at Pike and 3rd which was considerably sketchier than anything that's ever happened on Capitol Hill and even that was tame compared to other large cities I've visited.
    - wonderwonder 3y ago
      Friend, respectfully... 5 people were not shot over a few days on the late night bus. I'm glad you felt safe and that you were able to walk your kids through it but lets not down play what really happened to the people that were shot and killed in that small area during that short window of time.
      - c22 3y ago
        I don't watch a lot of news so I can't really speak to the facts you're citing, but I've also spent some time living southeast of Capitol Hill in the Central District where people actually routinely get shot and where I've been mugged at gunpoint so it's possible my 'safety tolerance' is just different from yours. By comparison, nothing I saw on the hill during the 'CHAZ' even came close, it was mostly drum circles and graffiti-art. I remember feeling a similar disconnect between the news cycle and my lived experience during 'Occupy Wallstreet' when I watched a crowd of hundreds of people walking two blocks from in front of Westlake to protest at the Bank of America stop and wait for every pedestrian signal.
lazyasciiart 3y ago
I live in Capitol Hill and no, it wasn't "seized". CHAZ was on the same level of disruption as this weekend's annual music festival, which fenced off several city blocks (and they were blocks filled with stores people wanted to go to, not just the park). The news you are consuming is absolutely the issue, but I get the impression that you consume it because it tells you what you want to hear.