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Our World of Pixels

75 points by smusamashah 3y ago

smusamashah 3y ago
Some interesting worlds https://ourworldofpixels.com/countrysim https://ourworldofpixels.com/countrysim https://ourworldofpixels.com/planetsim https://ourworldofpixels.com/planetsim https://ourworldofpixels.com/jpdld https://ourworldofpixels.com/jpdld
jarebear6expepj 3y ago
Cookies, ok. Captcha, ok. Solve the puzzle... Peace.
samwillis 3y ago
This is really cool, I love the retro design. If the devs are here, what does the tech stack look like? What's the strategy for conflict resolution, i.e. two people edit the same area at the some time? Is that resolved on the server or on the client? -- Edit: to somewhat answer my own question, it seems to be open source, client and server here: https://github.com/OurSources https://github.com/OurSources Server is JS running on Node, need to dig deeper...
- LapisHusky 3y ago
  I'm a moderator on the site and I've worked a bit on the client and know the admins/developers. Currently the client you see on that github (https://github.com/OurSources/owop-client https://github.com/OurSources/owop-client) is mostly up to date, but the current server is private. The server is written in C++ and uses synchronous disk operations, which makes it quite slow when lots of people are online like right now. A rewritten and improved version of the site should come out by the end of the year. The server runs in a single thread, so it's not really possible for two websocket messages to come in at the same time. One edit will come before the other, and the later edit is the one that everyone will see.
  - swarfield 3y ago
    It would be interesting to see some stats on what you guys are see performance wise, how much storage the project takes up, and what framework you are using. Honestly you guys have a lot of head room for speed improvements. Btw the server implementation I could find was archived?
  - aziaziazi 3y ago
    May I ask: how do you moderate this giant stuff ? Manually, with machine, from reports ? Congrats for the work and wish the best for v2 !
    - ceuthyn 3y ago
      another mod of the site here, we mostly look at the spawn area ourselves and use reports for other stuff automated moderation is in the works! currently only chat is automoded but im planning on doing the canvas in the near future
Clamchop 3y ago
Got captcha'd and bailed. I have no patience for these things anymore and they increasingly don't think I'm human.
- rahkiin 3y ago
  Web attestation would remove the need for captchas (reference to the web attestation threads)
  - badRNG 3y ago
    The sorts of people getting captchas are the sorts that would actively avoid "web attestation." It's more likely that they'd simply be prevented from using the site entirely.
    - qup 3y ago
      What is it about a person that makes them the sort that would get a captcha? I get them, and I'd like to change my ways.
  - kevincox 3y ago
    Are you sure it would? How hard would it be for spammers to buy a Windows machine and run Chrome?
- smusamashah 3y ago
  For me the captcha was just a checkbox. I assumed that they do need it. There is lots of bot activity on https://ourworldoftext.com https://ourworldoftext.com
- samwillis 3y ago
  If you don't like a post on HN, just don't upvote it. HN guidelines: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html > Please don't complain about tangential annoyances—e.g. article or website formats, name collisions, or back-button breakage. They're too common to be interesting. The devs will certainly have a reason for having a captcha, I suspect it keeps the actual game fun rather than being overrun with bots.
politelemon 3y ago
There ought to be shortcuts to switch between the tools. I'm trying to fix vandalized artwork so it'd be good to rapidly switch between color picker and cursor tool. One other point, it's not obvious that the cursor tool is a painting tool. I thought it was fill.
- ceuthyn 3y ago
  there is such a thing for the main 3 tools, press p to use the color picker, o for the cursor, m for the move tool
rsingel 3y ago
Love the homage to yourworldoftext.com, which remains one of the net's largely forgotten gems
- ceuthyn 3y ago
  an even bigger homage is on our sister site, ourworldoftext.com
  - fernozzle 3y ago
    I know that Cygnus, but still let me tell you something. OWOT knows who you are.
    - Cthulhu_ 3y ago
      Why does that sound like a weird threat?
DaOne256 3y ago
There is a bug with the captcha box: I solve it then I hear the "welcome sound" but the captcha popup never closes. I use Opera on Android.
- phito 3y ago
  Same on android firefox, but you can close it by clicking outside of the modal
gardenhedge 3y ago
tried to draw something, it kept disappearing and then I lost connection with the server
sva_ 3y ago
I noped out after having to solve a captcha for just seeing what the page was about.
- tedunangst 3y ago
  Shallow complaint, but same. At least tell me why I want to donate my time training the AI before demanding I do so.
  - sva_ 3y ago
    I don't think it is shallow. Forcing people to go through Google's digital forced-labor-camps of solving stupid classification tasks just to view a website is something that should be frowned upon.
cobertos 3y ago
So many cute things on there :3! I recognize so many more of the symbology than with this year's Reddit place, makes me feel old? Or just, not understanding of mainstream as much anymore
LightMachine 3y ago
spent 2 minutes on captcha. giving up. fts
pdabbadabba 3y ago
I feel like I’m noticing lazier and lazier cookie notifications, but surely this one is the laziest! If you don’t accept cookies, disable cookies and reload the page? Surely this is not an acceptable way of obtaining user consent under the Privacy Directive. If you’re going to do this, why even bother with the prompt? Is it satire? Would someone who knows more about the Privacy Directive tell me if I’m wrong here?
- troupo 3y ago
  IANAL, but you are not wrong.
- boesboes 3y ago
  The only non-functional cookies are from google.com. If they got rid of the captcha, no cookies, no warning nescesarry. This is either just lazy or a dick move.
  - RetroTechie 3y ago
    Better yet, able to check what this site is about. Somehow the page stuck at "I'n not a robot" recaptcha thingie. No action beyond that -> whatever site did or showed, it did NOT do or show in my case. And therefore wasted effort. Just remove annoying captcha shit, plz...
nonethewiser 3y ago
I shared this devs personal site yesterday. He has some cook work. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36842516 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36842516
- corn13read2 3y ago
  Does he use lots of pot?
yuumei 3y ago
Instant captcha? No thanks
- Cthulhu_ 3y ago
  It's to stop bots, but I'm sure there's plenty of those around.
roge7331 3y ago
Unable to zoom out on android

75 points by smusamashah 3y ago

Some interesting worlds https://ourworldofpixels.com/countrysim https://ourworldofpixels.com/countrysim https://ourworldofpixels.com/planetsim https://ourworldofpixels.com/planetsim https://ourworldofpixels.com/jpdld https://ourworldofpixels.com/jpdld

jarebear6expepj 3y ago

Cookies, ok. Captcha, ok. Solve the puzzle... Peace.

samwillis 3y ago

This is really cool, I love the retro design. If the devs are here, what does the tech stack look like? What's the strategy for conflict resolution, i.e. two people edit the same area at the some time? Is that resolved on the server or on the client? -- Edit: to somewhat answer my own question, it seems to be open source, client and server here: https://github.com/OurSources https://github.com/OurSources Server is JS running on Node, need to dig deeper...

LapisHusky 3y ago
I'm a moderator on the site and I've worked a bit on the client and know the admins/developers. Currently the client you see on that github (https://github.com/OurSources/owop-client https://github.com/OurSources/owop-client) is mostly up to date, but the current server is private. The server is written in C++ and uses synchronous disk operations, which makes it quite slow when lots of people are online like right now. A rewritten and improved version of the site should come out by the end of the year. The server runs in a single thread, so it's not really possible for two websocket messages to come in at the same time. One edit will come before the other, and the later edit is the one that everyone will see.
- swarfield 3y ago
  It would be interesting to see some stats on what you guys are see performance wise, how much storage the project takes up, and what framework you are using. Honestly you guys have a lot of head room for speed improvements. Btw the server implementation I could find was archived?
- aziaziazi 3y ago
  May I ask: how do you moderate this giant stuff ? Manually, with machine, from reports ? Congrats for the work and wish the best for v2 !
  - ceuthyn 3y ago
    another mod of the site here, we mostly look at the spawn area ourselves and use reports for other stuff automated moderation is in the works! currently only chat is automoded but im planning on doing the canvas in the near future

Clamchop 3y ago

Got captcha'd and bailed. I have no patience for these things anymore and they increasingly don't think I'm human.

rahkiin 3y ago
Web attestation would remove the need for captchas (reference to the web attestation threads)
- badRNG 3y ago
  The sorts of people getting captchas are the sorts that would actively avoid "web attestation." It's more likely that they'd simply be prevented from using the site entirely.
  - qup 3y ago
    What is it about a person that makes them the sort that would get a captcha? I get them, and I'd like to change my ways.
- kevincox 3y ago
  Are you sure it would? How hard would it be for spammers to buy a Windows machine and run Chrome?
smusamashah 3y ago
For me the captcha was just a checkbox. I assumed that they do need it. There is lots of bot activity on https://ourworldoftext.com https://ourworldoftext.com
samwillis 3y ago
If you don't like a post on HN, just don't upvote it. HN guidelines: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html > Please don't complain about tangential annoyances—e.g. article or website formats, name collisions, or back-button breakage. They're too common to be interesting. The devs will certainly have a reason for having a captcha, I suspect it keeps the actual game fun rather than being overrun with bots.

politelemon 3y ago

There ought to be shortcuts to switch between the tools. I'm trying to fix vandalized artwork so it'd be good to rapidly switch between color picker and cursor tool. One other point, it's not obvious that the cursor tool is a painting tool. I thought it was fill.

ceuthyn 3y ago
there is such a thing for the main 3 tools, press p to use the color picker, o for the cursor, m for the move tool

rsingel 3y ago

Love the homage to yourworldoftext.com, which remains one of the net's largely forgotten gems

ceuthyn 3y ago
an even bigger homage is on our sister site, ourworldoftext.com
- fernozzle 3y ago
  I know that Cygnus, but still let me tell you something. OWOT knows who you are.
  - Cthulhu_ 3y ago
    Why does that sound like a weird threat?

DaOne256 3y ago

There is a bug with the captcha box: I solve it then I hear the "welcome sound" but the captcha popup never closes. I use Opera on Android.

phito 3y ago
Same on android firefox, but you can close it by clicking outside of the modal

gardenhedge 3y ago

tried to draw something, it kept disappearing and then I lost connection with the server

sva_ 3y ago

I noped out after having to solve a captcha for just seeing what the page was about.

tedunangst 3y ago
Shallow complaint, but same. At least tell me why I want to donate my time training the AI before demanding I do so.
- sva_ 3y ago
  I don't think it is shallow. Forcing people to go through Google's digital forced-labor-camps of solving stupid classification tasks just to view a website is something that should be frowned upon.

cobertos 3y ago

So many cute things on there :3! I recognize so many more of the symbology than with this year's Reddit place, makes me feel old? Or just, not understanding of mainstream as much anymore

LightMachine 3y ago

spent 2 minutes on captcha. giving up. fts

pdabbadabba 3y ago

I feel like I’m noticing lazier and lazier cookie notifications, but surely this one is the laziest! If you don’t accept cookies, disable cookies and reload the page? Surely this is not an acceptable way of obtaining user consent under the Privacy Directive. If you’re going to do this, why even bother with the prompt? Is it satire? Would someone who knows more about the Privacy Directive tell me if I’m wrong here?

troupo 3y ago
IANAL, but you are not wrong.
boesboes 3y ago
The only non-functional cookies are from google.com. If they got rid of the captcha, no cookies, no warning nescesarry. This is either just lazy or a dick move.
- RetroTechie 3y ago
  Better yet, able to check what this site is about. Somehow the page stuck at "I'n not a robot" recaptcha thingie. No action beyond that -> whatever site did or showed, it did NOT do or show in my case. And therefore wasted effort. Just remove annoying captcha shit, plz...

nonethewiser 3y ago

I shared this devs personal site yesterday. He has some cook work. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36842516 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36842516

corn13read2 3y ago
Does he use lots of pot?

yuumei 3y ago

Instant captcha? No thanks

Cthulhu_ 3y ago
It's to stop bots, but I'm sure there's plenty of those around.

roge7331 3y ago

Unable to zoom out on android