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You can buy a quest and don't need a PC for $300.

croes 3y ago
You only get mobile game graphics quality on a Quest headset
willis936 3y ago
That's a poor substitute. And also comes with Meta baggage. I can't speak for anyone else, but I will never invite a meta product into my home.
- mellosouls 3y ago
  So you don't know it's a poor substitute then?
  - willis936 3y ago
    What makes you say that? Whether or not I buy one has no bearing over how much computational power a device has: which is what makes it a poor substitute.
    - mellosouls 3y ago
      It's not just about the computational power though, is it? It's a different type of platform and regardless, the second half of your comment ruled out the value of the first.
      - willis936 3y ago
        Are you arguing that standalone headsets are not poor substitutes? For that to be the case they would have to do things like be able to play Half Life Alyx at acceptable visual fidelity.
        mellosouls 3y ago
        I'm arguing that you've made a pointless contribution by commenting on something you won't have in your home on principle; it speaks to a lack of experience and/or an evangelistic dismissal that disqualifies you from a reasonably impartial assessment. That you are also technically wrong is secondary.
        willis936 3y ago
        How can a point be inherently pointless? Yes or no: can a standalone headset play games like a PC-connected headset can? If yes, it is not a poor substitute. If no, then it is a poor substitute. This is the dichotomy I established with my comment.
- Auracle 3y ago
  It’s not a poor substitute - in a lot of ways it’s one of the best VR headsets you can get. Once you go wireless there’s no going back, and there are plenty of standalone games that don’t need great graphics to be fun. I also don’t understand people’s aversion to Meta over Google, Amazon, etc. but that’s a personal choice.
  - BanazirGalbasi 3y ago
    > I also don’t understand people’s aversion to Meta over Google, Amazon, etc. Objecting to Meta specifically here is a response to VR suggestions. The other two companies are irrelevant in this conversation because neither has a VR headset available for use (that I know of). It doesn't help that the Oculus Quest is the cheapest VR option out there, so it gets suggested every time the topic comes up, so those of us who prefer to avoid the three companies you mentioned tend to have a quick response ready.

You only get mobile game graphics quality on a Quest headset

That's a poor substitute. And also comes with Meta baggage. I can't speak for anyone else, but I will never invite a meta product into my home.

mellosouls 3y ago
So you don't know it's a poor substitute then?
- willis936 3y ago
  What makes you say that? Whether or not I buy one has no bearing over how much computational power a device has: which is what makes it a poor substitute.
  - mellosouls 3y ago
    It's not just about the computational power though, is it? It's a different type of platform and regardless, the second half of your comment ruled out the value of the first.
    - willis936 3y ago
      Are you arguing that standalone headsets are not poor substitutes? For that to be the case they would have to do things like be able to play Half Life Alyx at acceptable visual fidelity.
      - mellosouls 3y ago
        I'm arguing that you've made a pointless contribution by commenting on something you won't have in your home on principle; it speaks to a lack of experience and/or an evangelistic dismissal that disqualifies you from a reasonably impartial assessment. That you are also technically wrong is secondary.
        willis936 3y ago
        How can a point be inherently pointless? Yes or no: can a standalone headset play games like a PC-connected headset can? If yes, it is not a poor substitute. If no, then it is a poor substitute. This is the dichotomy I established with my comment.
Auracle 3y ago
It’s not a poor substitute - in a lot of ways it’s one of the best VR headsets you can get. Once you go wireless there’s no going back, and there are plenty of standalone games that don’t need great graphics to be fun. I also don’t understand people’s aversion to Meta over Google, Amazon, etc. but that’s a personal choice.
- BanazirGalbasi 3y ago
  > I also don’t understand people’s aversion to Meta over Google, Amazon, etc. Objecting to Meta specifically here is a response to VR suggestions. The other two companies are irrelevant in this conversation because neither has a VR headset available for use (that I know of). It doesn't help that the Oculus Quest is the cheapest VR option out there, so it gets suggested every time the topic comes up, so those of us who prefer to avoid the three companies you mentioned tend to have a quick response ready.