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"Free speech!" Meanwhile, Twitter's former management would have at least put up a fight when Erdogan wanted things taken down. And we know this because they di

"Free speech!" Meanwhile, Twitter's former management would have at least put up a fight when Erdogan wanted things taken down. And we know this because they did, regularly, with regards to requests from governments around the world. What of Musk? Could it be that he just likes strongmen and weird bigots, and it's for them he wants free speech, and everyone else can hang? (Hint: it's this one.)

coldtea 3y ago
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- sobellian 3y ago
  Excuse me, but Elon called himself a free speech absolutist. How meekly that principle retreats when a government just tells him, "no!"
  - eropple 3y ago
    Right. It's not "free speech absolutism" to let a dictator push you around with what speech your very principled platform puts on, is it? Twitter used to fight those, as I mentioned. And won a lot of them. Again: what of Musk? Surely it's not just an act and he's a simp for dictators.
    - samr71 3y ago
      Fight those, so long as they were trying to take down left-wingers, right?
      - eropple 3y ago
        Unless you have information I do not, you have no idea the content of those requests. But given the list of countries that Twitter refused demands from, I am willing to guess that no, it's not all requests aimed at your ideological brethren.
brodo 3y ago
Also ‘cis’ is banned for being a slur.
- lakomen 3y ago
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- TRiG_Ireland 3y ago
  Which is beautifully ridiculous. Are any real slurs banned there?
- xdennis 3y ago
  Previously people were banned for tweeting (...sorry x-ing): "men are not women". Twitter is the same anti-free-speech cesspool, just different management.
andsoitis 3y ago
> Twitter's former management would have at least put up a fight when Erdogan wanted things taken down. And we know this because they did, regularly, with regards to requests from governments around the world. Under Twitter’s previous ownership, the social media site complied with government takedown requests at a lower rate. Twitter fully complied with 440, or 50 percent, of requests and partially complied with 377, or 42 percent, during the 12-month period before Musk’s takeover. Turkey was also the biggest source of these requests at 27 percent, followed by South Korea with 20.6 percent and India with 12.8 percent. - https://www.aljazeera.com/economy/2023/5/2/twitter-fulfilling-more-government-censorship-requests-under-musk https://www.aljazeera.com/economy/2023/5/2/twitter-fulfillin...
numpad0 3y ago
I personally get both sides; at least the JP branch of Twitter was messing a lot with trends and pushing weird left-wing extremisms. That stopped because JP branch stopped existing. On the other hand, he's started running ethnic cleansing on the platform, so yeah it's what you said as well.

coldtea 3y ago

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sobellian 3y ago
Excuse me, but Elon called himself a free speech absolutist. How meekly that principle retreats when a government just tells him, "no!"
- eropple 3y ago
  Right. It's not "free speech absolutism" to let a dictator push you around with what speech your very principled platform puts on, is it? Twitter used to fight those, as I mentioned. And won a lot of them. Again: what of Musk? Surely it's not just an act and he's a simp for dictators.
  - samr71 3y ago
    Fight those, so long as they were trying to take down left-wingers, right?
    - eropple 3y ago
      Unless you have information I do not, you have no idea the content of those requests. But given the list of countries that Twitter refused demands from, I am willing to guess that no, it's not all requests aimed at your ideological brethren.

brodo 3y ago

Also ‘cis’ is banned for being a slur.

lakomen 3y ago
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TRiG_Ireland 3y ago
Which is beautifully ridiculous. Are any real slurs banned there?
xdennis 3y ago
Previously people were banned for tweeting (...sorry x-ing): "men are not women". Twitter is the same anti-free-speech cesspool, just different management.

andsoitis 3y ago

> Twitter's former management would have at least put up a fight when Erdogan wanted things taken down. And we know this because they did, regularly, with regards to requests from governments around the world. Under Twitter’s previous ownership, the social media site complied with government takedown requests at a lower rate. Twitter fully complied with 440, or 50 percent, of requests and partially complied with 377, or 42 percent, during the 12-month period before Musk’s takeover. Turkey was also the biggest source of these requests at 27 percent, followed by South Korea with 20.6 percent and India with 12.8 percent. - https://www.aljazeera.com/economy/2023/5/2/twitter-fulfilling-more-government-censorship-requests-under-musk https://www.aljazeera.com/economy/2023/5/2/twitter-fulfillin...

numpad0 3y ago

I personally get both sides; at least the JP branch of Twitter was messing a lot with trends and pushing weird left-wing extremisms. That stopped because JP branch stopped existing. On the other hand, he's started running ethnic cleansing on the platform, so yeah it's what you said as well.