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Car makers are just following the subsidies and the hype. It is not even a sustainable idea and it will eventually die. Hydrogen will eventually be nearly free
by _hypx 3y ago
Car makers are just following the subsidies and the hype. It is not even a sustainable idea and it will eventually die.
Hydrogen will eventually be nearly free. It is just going to be made from excess wind and solar energy and will follow the same cost reduction curve.
- seanmcdirmid 3y ago> Hydrogen will eventually be nearly free. It is just going to be made from excess wind and solar energy and will follow the same cost reduction curve. How is that different from charging a battery at a super charger? Because it can be delivered via more expensive pipeline or trucks rather than cheaper wires? Heck, it doesn't even store well, you need to keep those tanks cold so the hydrogen stays compressed, you are going to be using more electricity for that.
- _hypx 3y agoBecause you can't always have electricity available at super chargers. How do you power your car if the wind is not blowing and it is not daytime? You will need energy storage, something hydrogen provides in spades. That ensures hydrogen will be needed and be very cheap since it is made from wind, solar and water alone. A pipeline is cheaper than a wire at moving energy around. About 10x cheaper in fact. This is just another example of BEV FUD. BEV companies just make shit up to demonization the competition, and often times the exact opposite is true.
- _aavaa_ 3y agoI’d love to see a peer reviewed paper or even a report on a project that’s already been built showing that a hydrogen pipeline is cheaper to run per kWh final electricity, much less 10x cheaper.
- _hypx 3y agohttps://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2589004221014668 https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S258900422...