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That obsd fanboys can't code mobile friendly sites.

simondotau 3y ago
I think if a web page formatted with nothing more than <h1>, <h2> and <p> tags isn't displayed well on your phone, the failing is with your browser, not the page. Surely a web page with utterly default style and zero layout should be a minimally cromulent experience on any device. It's just headings and paragraphs, with the occasional bullet point and indent. There's no stylesheet. There's no reference to millimetres, pixels or point sizes. Everything is defaults.
- accrual 3y ago
  Amazing that I would run into the owner/operator of Whirlpool on hn. I used the site a lot back in the day for modem/networking help. Thanks for all the fish!
- rs_rs_rs_rs_rs 3y ago
  The website from your HN profile works fine on mobile. Why did you put in the work for that and not rely on the "defaults"?
  - simondotau 3y ago
    Is that a serious question? I'll offer a serious answer if so, even though it's an absolute non sequitur.
    - rs_rs_rs_rs_rs 3y ago
      It is absolutely a serious question.
      - simondotau 3y ago
        Information density, feature density, and distinctiveness. Also it's fun.
    - rs_rs_rs_rs_rs 3y ago
      > Information density, feature density, and brand association. Nice things I want from a page that talk at length about obsd too but it seems I am wrong for wanting them.
      - simondotau 3y ago
        > Nice things I want from a page Unlike my website, the page here is a static document. I see no information density issue showing a static document with generic mark-up. The page has no features at all, dense or otherwise. The page has no need for brand, it's just a document written by someone, and that person probably doesn't have a personal logo or corporate colours. > it seems I am wrong for wanting them. I never said that. What I said is that the browser is wrong for giving you an unsatisfactory experience with a generic web page.
bjelkeman-again 3y ago
Look perfectly fine on iOS and iPadOS, for me.
- rs_rs_rs_rs_rs 3y ago
  No it does not, you're lying.
  - mvanbaak 3y ago
    And another 'works for me on iPhone and iPad default safari browsers'
  - lproven 3y ago
    Works beautifully on every browser I have tried.
  - carlosjobim 3y ago
    Looks perfect on iPhone, I can confirm. To browse the web with a mobile device you should set it to open every site in reader view as default.
  - doublerabbit 3y ago
    Loads and renders fine here too, iPhone.
- jmclnx 3y ago
  And looks good to me on android via Firefox and Chrome.
- gkbrk 3y ago
  Renders just fine on Firefox on Android as well. Doesn't have a weird zoom or scrolling on the horizontal axis like some "mobile friendly" websites either.
blactuary 3y ago
Looks perfect for me on Android Firefox. Not only looks perfect, loaded really fast. Plain Jane HTML is great and more people should use it.
- Sunspark 3y ago
  I can't use that browser. The scrolling inertia is horrible. Samsung Internet Browser is so much more pleasant to scroll about in.
  - lproven 3y ago
    I actually laughed out loud at that. :-D
whartung 3y ago
Looks fine on my iPhone. Font is a bit small for me, but turning the phone sideways fixes that, or using the Reader mode. This is in stark contrast to sites that use the PRE tag and don’t wrap. Notably things like their mailing list archives.

I think if a web page formatted with nothing more than <h1>, <h2> and <p> tags isn't displayed well on your phone, the failing is with your browser, not the page. Surely a web page with utterly default style and zero layout should be a minimally cromulent experience on any device. It's just headings and paragraphs, with the occasional bullet point and indent. There's no stylesheet. There's no reference to millimetres, pixels or point sizes. Everything is defaults.

accrual 3y ago
Amazing that I would run into the owner/operator of Whirlpool on hn. I used the site a lot back in the day for modem/networking help. Thanks for all the fish!
rs_rs_rs_rs_rs 3y ago
The website from your HN profile works fine on mobile. Why did you put in the work for that and not rely on the "defaults"?
- simondotau 3y ago
  Is that a serious question? I'll offer a serious answer if so, even though it's an absolute non sequitur.
  - rs_rs_rs_rs_rs 3y ago
    It is absolutely a serious question.
    - simondotau 3y ago
      Information density, feature density, and distinctiveness. Also it's fun.
  - rs_rs_rs_rs_rs 3y ago
    > Information density, feature density, and brand association. Nice things I want from a page that talk at length about obsd too but it seems I am wrong for wanting them.
    - simondotau 3y ago
      > Nice things I want from a page Unlike my website, the page here is a static document. I see no information density issue showing a static document with generic mark-up. The page has no features at all, dense or otherwise. The page has no need for brand, it's just a document written by someone, and that person probably doesn't have a personal logo or corporate colours. > it seems I am wrong for wanting them. I never said that. What I said is that the browser is wrong for giving you an unsatisfactory experience with a generic web page.

bjelkeman-again 3y ago

Look perfectly fine on iOS and iPadOS, for me.

rs_rs_rs_rs_rs 3y ago
No it does not, you're lying.
- mvanbaak 3y ago
  And another 'works for me on iPhone and iPad default safari browsers'
- lproven 3y ago
  Works beautifully on every browser I have tried.
- carlosjobim 3y ago
  Looks perfect on iPhone, I can confirm. To browse the web with a mobile device you should set it to open every site in reader view as default.
- doublerabbit 3y ago
  Loads and renders fine here too, iPhone.
jmclnx 3y ago
And looks good to me on android via Firefox and Chrome.
gkbrk 3y ago
Renders just fine on Firefox on Android as well. Doesn't have a weird zoom or scrolling on the horizontal axis like some "mobile friendly" websites either.

blactuary 3y ago

Looks perfect for me on Android Firefox. Not only looks perfect, loaded really fast. Plain Jane HTML is great and more people should use it.

Sunspark 3y ago
I can't use that browser. The scrolling inertia is horrible. Samsung Internet Browser is so much more pleasant to scroll about in.
- lproven 3y ago
  I actually laughed out loud at that. :-D

whartung 3y ago

Looks fine on my iPhone. Font is a bit small for me, but turning the phone sideways fixes that, or using the Reader mode. This is in stark contrast to sites that use the PRE tag and don’t wrap. Notably things like their mailing list archives.