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> When you are shopping you implicitly want others wages as low as possible. Maybe I'm splitting hairs here, but this isn't true stated like this. I'm surely n

by sli 3y ago

> When you are shopping you implicitly want others wages as low as possible. Maybe I'm splitting hairs here, but this isn't true stated like this. I'm surely not representative of most shoppers, but I don't want wages lower, I want the actual workers to get the largest cut of what I spend. Higher ups are salaried and have a guaranteed stable income which is not anything like an hourly wage. Lowering prices by simply cutting bonuses to people who already have a stable income is not at all the same as wanting hourly employees to take pay cuts to make your junk cheaper.

bombcar 3y ago
Yet people complain loudly about the one case where we can directly affect the worker's pay who are doing the actual work - tipping culture is widely derided as some sort of societal ill.
- mauvehaus 3y ago
  No, some of us complain bitterly about tipping culture because the waitstaff should be paid a living wage without having to be tipped. And some of us complain even more bitterly because the pittance they are paid doesn't keep up with the cost of living and so the amount of the tip as a percentage of the bill has to keep going up. To be clear: I tip well when I eat out. My irritation at the system is not something I take out on the people serving my food.
- not_the_fda 3y ago
  It makes complete sense that when buying a $4 coffee, I should also directly pay the wages of the person handing it to me.
api 3y ago
Valid point but usually in manufacturing labor and materials are the largest costs. Management can be in some cases less than 10% for a large operation, though it depends on scale and how efficient it is. C suite people are often overpaid but this is still usually a small cost center for a really big company, and most consumer products are made by large companies. Also those inflated compensation packages often include a bunch of stock and other non-cash compensation.

by sli 3y ago

bombcar 3y ago

Yet people complain loudly about the one case where we can directly affect the worker's pay who are doing the actual work - tipping culture is widely derided as some sort of societal ill.

mauvehaus 3y ago
No, some of us complain bitterly about tipping culture because the waitstaff should be paid a living wage without having to be tipped. And some of us complain even more bitterly because the pittance they are paid doesn't keep up with the cost of living and so the amount of the tip as a percentage of the bill has to keep going up. To be clear: I tip well when I eat out. My irritation at the system is not something I take out on the people serving my food.
not_the_fda 3y ago
It makes complete sense that when buying a $4 coffee, I should also directly pay the wages of the person handing it to me.

api 3y ago

Valid point but usually in manufacturing labor and materials are the largest costs. Management can be in some cases less than 10% for a large operation, though it depends on scale and how efficient it is. C suite people are often overpaid but this is still usually a small cost center for a really big company, and most consumer products are made by large companies. Also those inflated compensation packages often include a bunch of stock and other non-cash compensation.