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Wake me up when they ban private jets from celebrities and wealthy people instead of these stunts. And I say it as someone with no interest in cruises. Also,

Wake me up when they ban private jets from celebrities and wealthy people instead of these stunts. And I say it as someone with no interest in cruises. Also, it's fun that Amsterdam pretends it does not like certain type of tourist unless they spend money in museums but it clearly caters to the "sex and drugs go crazy in AMS" tourist. Much to the point that it's shocking to other tourists who are simply visiting it as one more city.

dundarious 3y ago
It's not quite so simple on the question of the "sex and drugs go crazy" tourist: https://www.nytimes.com/2023/03/29/world/europe/amsterdam-uk-tourists-stay-away.html https://www.nytimes.com/2023/03/29/world/europe/amsterdam-uk... I haven't lived there in over a decade, but even then, they were at least talking about programs to deal with the "worst" tourists for a few demographics. And all the while, they were putting in lots of money to make things nicer for the kind of tourists they like. While I was there, it seemed like a popular and economically successful set of policies. I'm guessing they still are.
ethanbond 3y ago
“People should be able to buy drugs and participate in a sex economy” does not mean that they are catering to those tourists. They’ve been trying to figure out how to retain drug/sexual freedom while limiting tourism for that purpose for as long as I can remember at least. That’s a totally coherent position to hold, even if it’s difficult to encode into policy.
Mordisquitos 3y ago
> Wake me up when they ban private jets from celebrities and wealthy people instead of these stunts. I'm pretty sure that a city banning private jets would be orders of magnitude less impactful and more media-stuntworty than banning cruise ships.
sabas123 3y ago
>Also, it's fun that Amsterdam pretends it does not like certain type of tourist unless they spend money in museums but it clearly caters to the "sex and drugs go crazy in AMS" tourist. This posts triggers the hell out of me. Amsterdam has been trying it's hardest for _at least_ 5 years and probably a lot longer to get rid of these types of tourists. With english bachelor party goer's in particular.

dundarious 3y ago

It's not quite so simple on the question of the "sex and drugs go crazy" tourist: https://www.nytimes.com/2023/03/29/world/europe/amsterdam-uk-tourists-stay-away.html https://www.nytimes.com/2023/03/29/world/europe/amsterdam-uk... I haven't lived there in over a decade, but even then, they were at least talking about programs to deal with the "worst" tourists for a few demographics. And all the while, they were putting in lots of money to make things nicer for the kind of tourists they like. While I was there, it seemed like a popular and economically successful set of policies. I'm guessing they still are.

ethanbond 3y ago

“People should be able to buy drugs and participate in a sex economy” does not mean that they are catering to those tourists. They’ve been trying to figure out how to retain drug/sexual freedom while limiting tourism for that purpose for as long as I can remember at least. That’s a totally coherent position to hold, even if it’s difficult to encode into policy.

Mordisquitos 3y ago

> Wake me up when they ban private jets from celebrities and wealthy people instead of these stunts. I'm pretty sure that a city banning private jets would be orders of magnitude less impactful and more media-stuntworty than banning cruise ships.

sabas123 3y ago

>Also, it's fun that Amsterdam pretends it does not like certain type of tourist unless they spend money in museums but it clearly caters to the "sex and drugs go crazy in AMS" tourist. This posts triggers the hell out of me. Amsterdam has been trying it's hardest for _at least_ 5 years and probably a lot longer to get rid of these types of tourists. With english bachelor party goer's in particular.