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Getting the feeling that the narrative "Germany is failing" is being pushed really hard this summer.

raxxorraxor 3y ago
Perhaps it is the new Japan is failing (since at least 70 years). I would still take Japan before 90% of western countries though.
benterix 3y ago
Yeah, Germany is bad, Europe is falling etc. My pet peeve theory is that some Americans discovered life in Europe has several advantages and are thinking of moving. This is not ideal for the American economy so a narrative is created making people think there is something bad happening in Europe (bad and good things have been happening all the time, so basically you can write anything you want depending on which part and timeframe you pick and still claim you just describe facts).
- WhereIsTheTruth 3y ago
  My theory as well, the most obvious one is the FUD around the real estate market in Spain 2024 will for sure be fun to watch (US presidential election)
- jryle70 3y ago
  I have the completely opposite impression. Europe can do no wrong, American is bad. That sentiment is much more popular than the other way around, even in a post about how much bigger American economy has become compared to Europe [1]. You yourself is getting defensive about an article in a publication that is far from promoting American exceptionalism (check it's homepage), written by a Swiss with an European education, living in Europe, with a career covering Europe's affairs [2] [1] - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36763419 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36763419 [2] - https://www.fpri.org/contributor/joseph-de-weck/ https://www.fpri.org/contributor/joseph-de-weck/
h4x0rr 3y ago
As a German i gotta say the current government is really incompetent so naturally our economy is weakened
lispm 3y ago
it's a sequel to popular predictions like the Euro will collapse tomorrow, the EU will collapse, Germany will be de-industrialized, with renewable energy the grid will collapse, ... and much more. It's largely part of a propaganda war. Given that Russia used his energy exports to Europe as a weapon, things are getting more expensive and complicated, but Russia has failed so far to achieve its goals. One of these goals was to destabilize European countries with propaganda and energy shortages. Germany hosts now a million refugees from the Ukraine and billions of Euros are being spend to provide help and to dampen the economic impact. A large part of the population sees that life gets more expensive. Countries like Poland are even more affected. Positive effects: the need for the EU and NATO is clearer than ever. Also positive: the US provides a lot of support, thanks to the Biden administration.
- RGamma 3y ago
  The humanistic route might not be the cheapest one short term, but it's been shown again and again to be the correct one. Because no straight-thinking individual wants to be subjected to an overtly painful existence. Here is for hoping the impact of the straight-thinking overpowers that of the rest. Not saying there's no problems, but a beneficial system can self-correct for more benefit.

Perhaps it is the new Japan is failing (since at least 70 years). I would still take Japan before 90% of western countries though.

benterix 3y ago

Yeah, Germany is bad, Europe is falling etc. My pet peeve theory is that some Americans discovered life in Europe has several advantages and are thinking of moving. This is not ideal for the American economy so a narrative is created making people think there is something bad happening in Europe (bad and good things have been happening all the time, so basically you can write anything you want depending on which part and timeframe you pick and still claim you just describe facts).

WhereIsTheTruth 3y ago
My theory as well, the most obvious one is the FUD around the real estate market in Spain 2024 will for sure be fun to watch (US presidential election)
jryle70 3y ago
I have the completely opposite impression. Europe can do no wrong, American is bad. That sentiment is much more popular than the other way around, even in a post about how much bigger American economy has become compared to Europe [1]. You yourself is getting defensive about an article in a publication that is far from promoting American exceptionalism (check it's homepage), written by a Swiss with an European education, living in Europe, with a career covering Europe's affairs [2] [1] - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36763419 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36763419 [2] - https://www.fpri.org/contributor/joseph-de-weck/ https://www.fpri.org/contributor/joseph-de-weck/

h4x0rr 3y ago

As a German i gotta say the current government is really incompetent so naturally our economy is weakened

lispm 3y ago

it's a sequel to popular predictions like the Euro will collapse tomorrow, the EU will collapse, Germany will be de-industrialized, with renewable energy the grid will collapse, ... and much more. It's largely part of a propaganda war. Given that Russia used his energy exports to Europe as a weapon, things are getting more expensive and complicated, but Russia has failed so far to achieve its goals. One of these goals was to destabilize European countries with propaganda and energy shortages. Germany hosts now a million refugees from the Ukraine and billions of Euros are being spend to provide help and to dampen the economic impact. A large part of the population sees that life gets more expensive. Countries like Poland are even more affected. Positive effects: the need for the EU and NATO is clearer than ever. Also positive: the US provides a lot of support, thanks to the Biden administration.

RGamma 3y ago
The humanistic route might not be the cheapest one short term, but it's been shown again and again to be the correct one. Because no straight-thinking individual wants to be subjected to an overtly painful existence. Here is for hoping the impact of the straight-thinking overpowers that of the rest. Not saying there's no problems, but a beneficial system can self-correct for more benefit.