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It's not about giving the government more money. It's about redistributing from the class that buys politicians like I buy a candy bar, to the class that works

It's not about giving the government more money. It's about redistributing from the class that buys politicians like I buy a candy bar, to the class that works two jobs to put shitty unhealthy polluted food on the table.

m00x 3y ago
They would still be bought, but by other means. Even in Communism there is class division (if not more). Powerful people find ways.
- classified 3y ago
  "It can't be perfect, so let's not even try."
- thumbuddy 3y ago
  In anarchistic France when someone started acting like they were better than someone else a coworker would go on a smoke break with them and shoot them in the head. At least that's what I read... Not saying that's a successful model, but there are a lot of shades of grey between and surrounding our current system and the classic bogeyman "communism".
- pbhjpbhj 3y ago
  >Even in Communism there is class division (if not more).// What do you mean by this? We've never had a completely Capitalist system, AFAIAA, because the logical ends to that are slavery and selling body parts just to survive. Which means rebellion by the proles and it's easier to get people to work endlessly for your ends if you give them a measure of hope. Similarly, we've never had a completely Communist system because the logical ends to that are redistribution of power from those in control to the people. This means those currently in control lose most of their power; if you empower people to force a change towards communist principles ... well let's just say that has never gone well. We can squash the wealth gap, and we can redistribute political power back to the demos ... but it's a very long road and means structuring society to combat individual greed, ultimately giving up the "American dream" of having others work at your minions to give you a millionaire life-style. Honestly, the greed we humans have for that is so powerful it acts as an almost insurmountable barrier to a fairer society/World.

m00x 3y ago

They would still be bought, but by other means. Even in Communism there is class division (if not more). Powerful people find ways.

classified 3y ago
"It can't be perfect, so let's not even try."
thumbuddy 3y ago
In anarchistic France when someone started acting like they were better than someone else a coworker would go on a smoke break with them and shoot them in the head. At least that's what I read... Not saying that's a successful model, but there are a lot of shades of grey between and surrounding our current system and the classic bogeyman "communism".
pbhjpbhj 3y ago
>Even in Communism there is class division (if not more).// What do you mean by this? We've never had a completely Capitalist system, AFAIAA, because the logical ends to that are slavery and selling body parts just to survive. Which means rebellion by the proles and it's easier to get people to work endlessly for your ends if you give them a measure of hope. Similarly, we've never had a completely Communist system because the logical ends to that are redistribution of power from those in control to the people. This means those currently in control lose most of their power; if you empower people to force a change towards communist principles ... well let's just say that has never gone well. We can squash the wealth gap, and we can redistribute political power back to the demos ... but it's a very long road and means structuring society to combat individual greed, ultimately giving up the "American dream" of having others work at your minions to give you a millionaire life-style. Honestly, the greed we humans have for that is so powerful it acts as an almost insurmountable barrier to a fairer society/World.